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- From: hdev@dutiaj.tudelft.nl (Hans de Vreught)
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- Subject: Re: Is Math Hard?
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- Date: 16 Nov 92 08:46:13 GMT
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- mccolm@darwin.math.usf.edu. (Gregory McColm) writes:
- >One thing not being mentioned: American teachers have been
- >underpayed for a VERY LONG time.
-
- >Well, women's lib put an end to all that. Bright women don't
- >have to work for peanuts any more. But local gov't refuses
- >to adjust to a more European pay scale (and professional
- >standards), and the result is a muddled mixture of desperate
- >idealists, burnouts, incompetents, and survivors. A perfect
- >system with a perfect curriculum is doomed to fail until
- >we improve the profession.
-
- What are the wages generally encountered at the US education system?
- I can give you the Dutch equivalents. Over here a year salary consist of 12
- moth salaries + 8% holiday allowance. Furthermore I will assume $1 = f1.75
- (which is almost correct +/- one or two cents). I'm not 100% sure about the
- salary scales of Nursery and First level education (but I believe they are
- right).
-
- Nursery education (below kindergarten) $24861 - $38576
- First level education $24861 - $42924
- Second level education (high school) $26150 - $57424
- Assistent professor $26150 - $57424
- Associate professor $50944 - $62489
- Full professor $53588 - $100614
-
- These numbers might look much higher than in the States but over in Europe
- social security and income tax are way over what is normal in the States. But
- that is of course completely indepemdent of the education profession. Over
- here in Europe teaching is also an underpaid profession.
- --
- Hans de Vreught | John von Neumann:
- hdev@dutiba.twi.tudelft.nl | Young man, in mathematics
- Delft University of Technology (TWI-ThI) | you don't understand things,
- The Netherlands | you just get used to them.
-