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- From: mbk@lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
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- Subject: Re: Lorenz' Weather
- Date: 16 Nov 1992 05:30:50 GMT
- Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
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- mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Marc Roussel) writes:
- : > dX/dt = a(Y-X)
- : > dY/dt = bX-Y-XZ
- : > dZ/dt = XY - cZ
- : >
- : > where a = 10
- : > c = 8/3
- : > b = control parameter (try 28)
- :
- : These are indeed the Lorenz equations (as they are now known) but
- : these aren't the original weather simulation equations where Lorenz
- : noticed sensitive dependence on initial conditions. Lorenz actually
- : started out with some specialized version of the Navier-Stokes equation
- : (a PDE) and noticed sensitive dependence in these equations under the conditions
- : of his weather simulation. The Lorenz ODEs shown above are a truncation
- : of the Navier-Stokes equation for the special case of (I think)
- : Rayleigh-Benard convection under certain fairly restrictive conditions.
-
- There is a physical system for which the Lorenz equations are a
- "not incredibly bad" approximation (to use them for simple R-B convection is a
- "well that's really pretty cheezy" approximation).
-
- It's called a thermosyphon, and it actually gets used for some engineering
- applications but I don't know how really.
-
- Think of a loop of pipe in an 'O' standing up vertically, like a bicycle
- wheel, with fluid in the interior.
-
- Now, keep the walls on the bottom half of the "O" hot, and the
- walls on the top half cold. Given enough of a temperature difference,
- you can start to get convective motion of the fluid as it tries to
- transport heat from hot to cold.
-
- In this circumstance, the "X" variable is proportional to fluid
- velocity (in some complicated nondimensionalization), the Y and Z
- variables are coefficients sine and cosine modes of the temperature.
-
- "a" is the Prandtl number of the fluid (ratio of shear viscosity to
- thermal diffusivity), "b" is the Rayleigh number (proportional to
- temperature difference between hot and cold boundary conditions and
- other geometrical factors), and "c" is always one.
-
- : Lorenz cooked up these equations as a simple example of what he was
- : seeing in his more sophisticated weather models.
-
-
- : Marc R. Roussel
- : mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca
-
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