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- From: tpalm@nada.kth.se (Thomas Palm)
- Subject: Re: The Criterion for Ecocentrism
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.163951.24163@kth.se>
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- Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:39:51 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov13.074014.9157@ke4zv.uucp>, gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
-
- |> No I'm assuming we start with a position that no one has a right to use
- |> a resource they don't own, or lease, and that there can be no such thing
- |> as effective collective ownership. Thus clean air freaks don't get their
- |> lungfulls for free, and neither do factory owners get a waste receptacle
- |> for their waste for free.
- Everybody should pay for their benefits of the air, OK. But who should they
- pay to? Each other?
-
- Unless you can define an owner to the air your grand market
- scheme fails miserably. The air is, whatever you claim, effectively collective
- property today, and whoever should suddenly claim to own it would
- get my vote for being the biggest thief ever.
-
- In my opinion the problem is, in principle, quite simple:
-
- 1. The air is collective property (or if you prefer it unowned). Thus anyone
- destroying it should pay.
- 2. Much of the damage is delayed or never idintified as due to air pollution.
- 2. The damage from pollution is widespread and it is usually impractical to
- determine exactly who should receive what, i.e. the bureaucracy and legal
- processess would swallow most of the money if an absoutely fair system was
- used.
- 3. We need a government that must have money to operate. Well, some may disagree,
- I guess, but I consider those fanatics.
- 4. It thus seems natural to use pollution taxes. This would allow other taxes
- to be reduced thus distributing the money among the population. As these
- taxes are often income related (in Sweden at least) it would reduce
- employment costs, thus hopefully increasing employment, more than compensating
- for the lost jobs due to extra costs for the industry.
-
- The real problem is determining the level of these taxes. One way might
- be to determine an acceptable pollution level and adjusting the tax to reach it.
- This is less optimal than setting the cost equal to the marginal cost of
- the pollution, but probably somewhat easier to implement.
-
- The REAL problem, of course, is convincing people that this is the right way
- to go! :-)
-
- --
- "Goood planets are hard to find." Thomas Palm
- Department of Microwave Engineering
- Royal Institute of Technology
- S-100 44 Stockholm, Sweden
- tpalm@mvt.kth.se
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