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- From: cacst9+@pitt.edu (Cecelia A Clancy)
- Newsgroups: sci.engr
- Subject: Re: The Basic Nature of This Newsgroup
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- Date: 17 Nov 92 13:38:02 GMT
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- > Shawn Thompson <v087mxgb@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu> writes:
-
- > Man of man! -
- > they should rename this newsgroup to:
- > sci.engr.gripe.philosophy.whine.discuss.everything.but.tech
- subjects.and.dont.dare.ever.discuss.engineering.cuz.the.
- net.is.too.busy.discussing.every.other.politically.correct.
- complaint.subject.from.education.to.work.ethics.to.why.my.
- toes.sweat.at.the.office
- > :-)
- > st
-
- Yep, all of the above except "whine" belong here because engineering
- touches everything and everything touches engineering. When
- the engineering aspects of ANY social/humanities topic is being
- discussed, it belongs here. We cannot just sit back and let
- others make the political desisions and cannot relegate ourselves to
- merely devising ways to implement those other-made decisions.
- We have to be, OURSELVES, part of the various political and social
- decision-making processes.
-
- And we must, under certain certain circumstances,
- REFUSE to carry out certain political decisions. The various Codes
- of Ethics give us plenty of guidance on when to refuse. The IEEE
- Code of Ethics For Engineers goes one step further by urging us to
- support others in carring out and in living up the IEEE Code of Ethics.
- This means things like protecting and supporting whistleblowers, folks.
- This means eradication discrimination in the workplace, folks.
- This means helping engineers in countries with oppressive governments
- and regimes to make their skills "unavailable" to those who want them
- to design nasty things like genocidal gas chambers or whatever else, folks.
-
- But how can we carry out such tall orders as isolated individuals who
- just happen to be engineers? We have to, from time to time, get together
- as engineers, and educate ourselves and exchange ideas on the
- social and political ingredients that go into engineering work and on
- the social and political products of engineering work. The difficulties
- and complications of engineering go far beyond the merely technical and
- the merely mathematical. Just as we would never hesitate to support
- one another in the purely technical and purely mathematical dificulties,
- so must we support each other in all the other difficulties as well.
-
- Much of our "technical" material to be posted, Shawn, is highly enough
- specialized that most people are posting it put into newsgroups like
- sci.engr.mech, sci.engr.chem, ieee.general, sci.math.num-analysis,
- sci.engr.civil, sci.materials, sci.biomed, sci.med.physics, et cetera.
- Look into them, Shawn, and you will find more "technical stuff" than
- you, I, or anybody else can keep up with.
-
-
- Cecelia <muller+@pitt.edu>
-
- Cecelia Mu"ller (412) 682-2798
- P.O. Box 71222
- Pittsburgh, PA 15213
- USA
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