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- From: dyrda@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Richard Dyrda)
- Subject: Re: Notch another one up for the Greennazis
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.210535.19834@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>
- Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
- References: <56343@dime.cs.umass.edu> <1992Nov17.160248.23062@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> <56456@dime.cs.umass.edu>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:05:35 GMT
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- >In article <56456@dime.cs.umass.edu> yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) writes:
- >>In article <1992Nov17.160248.23062@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> dyrda@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Richard Dyrda) writes:
- >> I never said I agreed with the French government. All I said was one
- >>day Greenpeace may learn the difference between fishing trollers and
- >>Missile Cruisers.
- >
- >I believe that if they did not know the difference already,they might
- >have learned it after the French government showed that it was willing
- >to murder unarmed protesters.
-
- No I think they do not know the difference, otherwise they wouldn't
- have been that dumb to try and stop/trail this vessel. Same tactics
- apply in carrier air groups who project out a 100 or so mile air
- radius as theirs as do in this type of situation. However Greenpeace
- does have a right to protest, I never said they didn't.
-
- >> Cmon! Greenpeace totally preys in on the big nations because they know
- >>they can not risk any sort of bad publicity. Greenpeace, or some other
- >
- >This statement is, surprise, counter-factual. The French government
- >certainly showed that it was willing to risk bad publicity when it
- >sent a terrorist team to bomb the Greenpeace boat and then again when
- >it used strong arm tactics and lies to get its terrorists out of
- >New Zealand's jails.
-
- I think it was supposed to be a quiet incident not a public incident.
- But then again this is the French government, not ours. However I
- think French industrialists may view Greenpeace as "terrorists".
-
- >Well, that's because we have a semi-democracy where the right to peaceful
- >protest is still preserved. Got a problem with this?
-
- Never said I did. I believe in the constitution, however in international
- waters and other lands that document means didly squat. Greenpeace has
- a right to protest, one they exercise regularly, however there methods
- can be called into question.
-
- >Pathetic. Is it your contention that the Japanese rammed a Greenpeace
- >boat to get revenge for the actions of another environmental organization?
-
- If you remember the original post this was a joke!
- And no the Japanese Destroyer rammed the Greenpeace vessel because it entered
- their safety radius. I'm sure that the Japanese/French escorts warned this
- vessel numerous times before action was taken, if not then it is a
- crime that should be prosecuted against them.
-
- >Sure. Many people recognize a difference between the actions of the armed
- >forces of a nation and the actions of unarmed non-violent citizens groups.
-
- Sure they do. They also know extremeism when they see it.
-
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