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- From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
- Subject: Re: Info on the GM SE-101 Steam Car
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.172309.28255@ke4zv.uucp>
- Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
- Organization: Gannett Technologies Group
- References: <1992Nov13.123426.11872@bsu-ucs> <1992Nov13.223911.25528@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:23:09 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov13.223911.25528@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> mancus@carla.JSC.NASA.GOV (Keith Mancus/MDSSC) writes:
- > [stuff deleted]
- > Interesting stuff. Obviously it needs more development work, but I
- >think this is a more promising area than those silly electric cars. (Sorry
- >folks, I am far more suspicious of battery technology than most of you
- >are. I'll believe it when I see cheap, relatively lightweight mass-market
- >batteries with energy storage comparable to a tank of gas.)
-
- Don't hold your breath. :-)
-
- >Questions that your material might be able to answer:
- > -Why did they use a piston steam engine instead of a geared-down turbine?
- > Gearing problems? Cost of the turbine?
-
- Steam piston engines develop max torque at stall. That simplfies gearing
- a lot. Turbines are more expensive, and don't work well over wide RPM
- ranges, requiring complex gearboxes. It's also wasteful to have the
- turbine spinning while idling at a stop, and you have to, or you'll have
- unacceptable throttle lag while the turbine spools up. A steam piston engine
- doesn't demand *any* steam when stopped. With flash boilers, less than a
- teacup of steam is in the system at any one time. That means you can
- throttle the heat source immediately, saving fuel. Finally, a piston
- engine offers the advantage of dynamic braking for free. That's not a
- small consideration.
-
- > -You didn't say what they used as fuel. Propane? Natural gas? Seems
- > like you could use just about anything liquid or gaseous and not too
- > corrosive, which could be a big advantage.
-
- The Stanley Steamer used heating oil. Any flamable liquid or gas would
- work, including peanut oil. Saturated steam temperature isn't very high,
- however, so the Carnot efficiency isn't wonderful, hence fuel economy
- isn't wonderful. If you could superheat to 800C, it'd be great, but that
- brings on another host of problems you don't want to tackle outside a
- large stationary plant.
-
- Gary
-