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- From: dpeders1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Daniel Pedersen)
- Subject: Re: opening of the first
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- Reply-To: dpeders1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Daniel Pedersen)
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- Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 16:06:28 GMT
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- dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz) writes:
- > In article <3987.1017.uupcb@spacebbs.com> howard.smith@spacebbs.com (Howard Smith) writes:
- > >
- > >Actually, there are thousands of homes and businesses in the U.S.
- > >that rely on passive solar heating, usually employing conventional
- > >triple-paned glass windows. Many of them, mostly in Colorado and
- > >northern California, also rely on solar for electricity.
- >
- >
- > I would dispute your claim. Triple paned glass windows are really
- > just conservation -- as long as you have a window, you want to make
- > the losses through it be low. If anything, this *reduces* solar
- > heating, as the triple pane windows are somewhat less transparent that
- > double pane.
-
- I disagree. Glass has a high transmission coefficient in the frequency
- range of the visible spectrum and the range of the spectrum at which the
- most enrgy is available in solar radiation. However it has a small
- transmission coeff. in the thermal radiation range (IR). What this means is
- that glass allows visible light to pass the energy in, but does not allow
- the themal energy to escape. this is how greenhouses work.
- It seems to me that triple pane glass would minimize the heat loss even
- more. The most widely used design for flat plate solar collectors is double
- plate covers of a transparent material, with high transmissivity at solar
- radiation range, and low emissivity (which equals transmissivity) at
- thermal ranges.
- >
- > If, instead, you are suggesting that additional triple-paned windows
- > be installed to provide net heat gain, then I would be dubious as to
- > their economy as well, at least for consumers who have access to
- > natural gas or oil (i.e., most.)
-
- Hmm. Adding more triple pane windows would increase the input of solar
- energy. the question is if the walls are better insulators than the windows
- (my guess is yes). If this is the case then the increased energy in will be
- balanced by increased heat out, and there will be a point at which we will
- lose more than we gain. Since well insulated walls are (IMO) cheaper than
- triple pane windows (Andersen windows are wonderful, but $$$$), I would tend
- to agree that it is not economically feasible. Although for a small
- increase in window space in a well designed house, I would expect to see a
- net heat gain.
-
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