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- From: medin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com (Dave Medin)
- Subject: Re: Using big caps as computer power supply filters (?)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.202800.13417@b30.ingr.com>
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- Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville AL
- References: <1992Nov17.165023.29174@julian.uwo.ca>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:28:00 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov17.165023.29174@julian.uwo.ca>, wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
- |> I've got some big electrolytic caps (20000 to 60000 uf, 16 to 40 volts),
- |> and I was thinking of putting them across the 5V and 12V power supplies
- |> in my pc. I would think that cap's that big would provide maybe 1
- |> second of backup power. Should I use some inductors or smaller
- |> caps with these big guys (to make them safer), or are they pretty reliable
- |> on their own (I wouldn't want them exploding inside my pc). :)
-
- Be careful on this one, as the caps applied directly across the
- rails will possibly cause the power supply to current limit
- and turn off, blow a fuse, or smoke itself. Also, you may see
- oscillation because of the large capacitive load.
-
- You might try attaching the caps to the bus through a 5 ohm (5 volt)
- and 100 ohm (12 volt rail) resistor, each in parallel with a schottky
- diode (cathode or banded end oriented towards the power bus). The
- schottky diode is a must, for its low forward voltage drop.
- Unfortunately, high current (20 amps for the 5 volt line)
- schottkys are not easy commodities to find for a hobbyist,
- although the dual diodes found in PC power supplies are often
- schottkys and could be used.
-
- Note that the above is risky anyway, as some power supplies use linear
- post-regulation on the 12 volt line. Supplying 12 volts from
- the cap may back-bias linear regulators in the supply possibly
- resulting in fried or compromised components. I've never seen
- a PC supply whose 5 volt section could be damaged this way, though.
-
- Another problem... Most PC power supplies have a line monitor
- which detects AC and DC faults (loss of line power being one).
- This signal, available through the power supply connector,
- puts the MB into reset. This line would have to be defeated,
- with possible power-on consequences (the MB coming up
- before power was stable).
-
- In short, although it would make an interesting experiment, I wouldn't
- be doing it in my machine.
-
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