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- From: jwh@citi.umich.edu (Jim Howe)
- Subject: Re: A Supply Side Call to Arms
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 15:41:05 EST
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- In article <1egjoaINNcdl@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bo275@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Larry R Beam) writes:
- |>
- |> Many Americans feel as James W. Howe does--that public
- |> spending is some how inherently wasteful (see article 13671).
- |> They and he are wrong.
- |>
-
- Obviously a matter of opinion.
-
- |> He writes that "There are countless examples of roads and
- |> bridges that have been built for which there is no rational
- |> reason." I can't think of even one such example; here in the
- |> Cleveland metropolitan region, and the other parts of the
- |> country, public roads and bridges are heavily used, and their
- |> contribution economic welfare and productivity is
- |> immeasurable.
- |>
-
- I personally know of one big example in Michigan, an infamous
- creation known as the Zilwaukee bridge. When I-75 was first
- built, it crossed the Saginaw river via a drawbridge. For
- many years, a new bridge was planned to replace the drawbridge.
- Obviously when the bridge is up it can create tremendous
- traffic tie-ups. The idea was good at the time. However,
- before the new bridge was built, a bypass was built which
- completely obviated the need for a replacement for the drawbridge.
- It would have been a simple matter to redirect traffic onto the bypass
- when the bridge was going up. Signs were already in place to warn
- drivers, all that was necessary was to give them instructions to
- take I-675 instead of continuing on. The extra distance and
- time lost on the bypass was minimal at worst. Did this cause
- the government to reconsider its plan? No. They went ahead and
- built one of the most expensive bridges possible. It was late,
- it was over budget, it practically fell down before they hired
- a new contractor to fix and finish it. In other words it was
- a boondoggle. This bridge was an absolute waste of taxpayer
- money. I have read of similar problems in other areas but I
- don't know the specifics. I believe there is a bridge on the
- East Coast somewhere which literally doesn't connect to anything,
- for example.
-
- |> The existence of adequate infrastructure, in good repair,
- |> is absolutely essential to economic success. And our nation's
- |> economic success is essential to every facet of our lives.
-
- Agreed, however much of that infrastructure can be and is being
- provided by *private* investment. For example, if the government
- would remove restrictions on the phone companies, it wouldn't
- be long before houses were wired with fiber instead of copper.
- We don't need to have a government program, we just need to
- get government out of the way.
-
- |>
- |> After admitting that some public projects are beneficial,
- |> Mr. Howe writes, "The question is what is the opportunity cost
- |> of public works projects. Could the money have been spent on
- |> other things which *also* would have benefited the American
- |> people, and possibly benefited them more."
- |>
- |> Mr. Howe should note that, to the extent that public
- |> projects are built by workers who would otherwise be
- |> unemployed, their opportunity cost is zero. The question of
- |> which proposed projects will yield the most benefit to the
- |> American people is very difficult. Because public projects
- |> yield different degrees of benefit to different groups of
- |> people, reaching thorough consensus as to which ones should be
- |> built is always difficult, and never is everyone fully
- |> satisfied. C'est la vie.
- |>
-
- However it is a giant leap of faith to assume that the workers
- employed by public works projects would have otherwise been
- unemployed. Money taken from the public to pay for public works
- project is money that can't be spent by the public. If you
- create jobs via public works, you are likely killing jobs elsewhere.
- You can't take a large amount of money out of the private sector
- and assume that no ill effect will occur. In addition, government
- is horrible at analyzing a situation to determine *if* money
- should really be spent. The Zilwaukee bridge is a prime example.
- Politicians aren't interested in alternative solutions if they
- don't have high visibility. Putting up signs to redirect traffic
- when a drawbridge is going to open isn't nearly as impressive as
- building a bridge, even though the costs for building the bridge
- are high and the benefits non-existant.
-
- |> America must--and under Bill Clinton, I believe it
- |> will--increase immensely its social spending on maintenance
- |> and construction of public works. As everyone who has ever
- |> owned a car or home knows, deferring maintain frequently
- |> elevates costs. The failure of Reagan and Bush to spend
- |> adequately on such things as roads and bridges is among the
- |> worst crimes of their leadership.
- |>
-
- Where are all these falling down bridges and roads I hear about.
- I've driven all over the state of Michigan and haven't seen
- any. All summer long road construction projects were underway.
- I'm not saying that there aren't problem areas, but I would bet
- the problems involve local politics more than lack of funding.
-
- |> Mr Howe writes: "Our government has spent money building
- |> sports arenas and stadiums which are underused, spent money on
- |> transit systems which can't support themselves, etc."
- |>
- |> Here in Cuyahoga County--the Cleveland area--voters, by a
- |> large margin, agreed a few years ago to tax themselves to
- |> finance the building of a new stadium. Chronic complainers say
- |> it's all a waste. I, and most voters, I believe, feel pride
- |> and optimism for our city as we watch the new stadium rise on
- |> what was an urban waste-land. Will Cleveland's new facility be
- |> "underused," as Mr. Howe suggests others are? That will surely
- |> be the judgment of some. Yet the voters frequently support
- |> such projects.
- |>
-
- If a local area wants to tax itself to pay for stadiums and
- transportation systems, that's their problem. Where I have a
- problem is being taxed to pay for your stadium, or having
- you taxed to pay for mine. Federal money helped build the
- Pontiac Silverdome (which is losing money), the Joe Louis
- Arena in Detroit (which is used almost exclusively for hockey),
- the Detroit People Mover (which is losing money), etc. I see
- no reason why people from other states should have to pay
- for these projects. If having a new stadium brings pride
- to the people of Cleveland then you damn well better plan
- on paying for it yourselves. Federal funding for a sports
- stadium is hardly spending which benefits the 'general welfare'
- as spelled out in the Constitution.
-
- |> And it was the voters here--acting through the democratic
- |> process--who agreed to pay for one of those "transit systems
- |> which can't support themselves." Voters here took both these
- |> actions because the market had failed to deliver adequate
- |> sports facilities and public transportation. They recognized
- |> that their well-being and productivity would be increased by
- |> moving some resources from private to public hands, allowing
- |> government to provide these public efforts.
- |>
-
- I'll bet you received some level of Federal funding for your
- transit system. Once again, fixing Cleveland's transit system
- is hardly in the general interest.
-
-
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