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- From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
- Subject: Re: jobs, again
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- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:53:21 GMT
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- In article <thompson.721708221@daphne.socsci.umn.edu> thompson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu writes:
- >nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
-
- >> You're poting from an economics department (brave man!) -- what do
- >> you think is going to happen in US employment for the rest of
- >> the decade, and why?
- >
- >I'm not willing to bite on this one. My replies to you are largely
- >derived from a strong distrust of long term macroeconomic forecasts.
-
- This is very sensible. I've been complaining on this and other
- newsgroups for a long time that what is needed is a genuine science
- of economics, although in all likelihood this would have to be
- based on a genuine science of psychology and I see neither on
- the horizon.
-
- Economists may protest that this is an unreasonable requirement
- and that the usual demands that a science have such features as
- predictive value, repeatability, testability, etc, cannot as a
- practical matter, apply to "social sciences". They will protest
- that the press has created unreasonable expectations of economics.
-
- But economists are perfectly happy to be employed in this role
- (forecasting) in their thousands by corporations, government
- agencies, "think tanks", and by the press itself.
-
-
- I'm describing the situation of the farmer trying to farm a small
- patch in a desert oasis. And every year he sees the desert creeping
- in a little closer, his wells have to be dug a little deeper, his
- crops yield a little less, his children are a little hungrier.
- He has no science that can tell him what the future will bring
- (and indeed none exists!) but he has the evidence of his senses.
- He could be wrong, of course, and next year the rains may fall,
- and the desert may bloom bountifully once again. Who can say?
- But given that no one CAN say with anything resembling scientific
- confidence, the evidence of his senses are the best he has to go
- on.
-
-
-
- > I would
- >prefer to characterize myself as a skeptic about the theoretical and
- >empirical basis of any such forecasts.
-
- This is an honest and reasonable position. The only problem
- with it -- and this does not reflect badly on you or your pos-
- ition -- is that decisions DO need to be made about long term
- issues by companies, individuals, and government policy makers.
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- ---peter
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