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- From: lwloen@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Larry Loen)
- Subject: Re: Public Key Patents
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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:54:20 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov23.165703.21735@cas.org>, jac54@cas.org () writes:
- |> In article <1992Nov23.011349.11673@netcom.com> rlglende@netcom.com (Robert Lewis Glendenning) writes:
- |> >I believe that Fleming made the patent for penicillin public, which delayed
- |> >development for many years. No drug company wanted to invest the $
- |> >on development and clinical testing when anybody else could ride on
- |> >the investment and undercut their prices. A sure route to bankruptcy.
- |> >
- |> >This is a system design issue. You guys are argueing about waves,
- |> >not wave-generation mechanisms.
- |> >
- |>
- |> Of course he made the patent public. A patent is a public
- |> record of an invention. The claims describe an invention
- |> over which the inventor has the right to prevent anyone else
- |> practicing and therefore have to publicly described.
- |> The reason for the delay in the commercial development of
- |> penicillin was more likely the very mixed set of clinical
- |> trials.
- |>
- |> Alec Chambers
-
-
- I remember a very good Nova episode on this topic. Apparently, while
- Fleming clearly _discovered_ penicillin, he was not inclined to pursue
- it as the medical cure it has now become. Whether it occurred to him
- or not, I don't know, but in any event, he had little or nothing to
- do with its commercial development.
-
- Indeed, the one thing that was continually emphasized in the special was
- the tremendous (initial, anyway) difficulties in getting penicillin
- produced on anything like a mass scale. It was a laboratory curiousity
- for some time even after its medical value was finally appreciated.
-
- One reason the early clinical
- trials may have been mixed was the necessity to do things like reclaim
- the precious drug from the urine of the test subjects.
-
- Indeed, I once read a suggestion that penicillin allergies were far less
- widespread than believed and have gone down as the drug's purity has
- improved over the years. That is to say, many people who carry "allergic
- to penicillin on their medic alert bracelets may well be allergic to
- impurities in older forms of the drug. But, whether this was in one of
- my wife's nursing journals or the tabloid press, I can't recall.
-
- So, the most important patents were probably not Fleming's anyway; it
- was any of the patents involved in making a "go" of it in commercial
- quantities. I remember that the other fellows who did the yeoman's work
- in making it practical were almost ignored and they and Fleming did not
- get along well in later years, but I don't remember them arguing about
- patents. Or, does someone else remember the show better?
-
- I don't think penicillin is a very good test case for the point trying to
- be made. A very messy example all around. Or, perhaps good for the same
- reason? :-)
-
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- Larry W. Loen | My Opinions are decidedly my own, so please
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