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- From: Erik.Lindano@ofa123.fidonet.org
- Newsgroups: sci.crypt
- Subject: New Encryption - a Challenge
- X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
- Message-ID: <n0ef2t@ofa123.fidonet.org>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 21:54:24
- Lines: 52
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- Writes thompson@sun425.nas.nasa.gov (Keith C. Thompson):
-
- > And, there is one small problem. The issue is the unicity
- > distance of the algorithm. It is impossible to decrypt ciphertext
- > that is shorter than the unicity distance of the algorithm. For
- > instance, the ciphertext DFJUG resulting from a simple
- > substitution could be any five letter word that had no repeated
- > letters.
-
- OK, how many words/letters would you like?
-
- > It is possible that the surrounding context is insufficient to
- > determine the correct decryption. For instance, it could be a
- > proper noun that does not appear anywhere else in the plaintext.
-
- We'll give you as much text as you want (within reason - please!).
- You choose the plaintext. We can guarantee that the unknown word
- will also be found among the known ones. [But please don't ask
- for a two-word file then! :-) ]
-
- Or you could submit some pattern of your own, such as a numerical
- or alphabetic progression of any kind, any length. Or a large file
- consisting of nothing but zeroes, with one set of eight non-zero
- characters embedded in the middle. (Try that on RSA or DES). Name
- your poison. One smart cookie has already asked for a set of
- files incorporating a slowly-changing alphabetic progression...
-
- > The real question, is can you and your friend make a suitable
- > challenge such that people are willing to take you up on it.
- > After all, you are essentially asking others to expend a
- > potentially large amount of effort for little or no reward.
- > Think of it as a challenge...
-
- Thanks. WE are going to try.
-
- > Well, seeing as we have not heard from your friend, there is no
- > way for us to judge whether he is up on the technology in the
- > field or not. You have given us no indication that would suggest
- > that he is, and one that would suggest otherwise.
-
- We've asked no one to make such a judgement. We only want to know
- whether the experts here can break an encrypted message where only
- ONE WORD is not disclosed, under fair terms, or even terms of their
- own choosing.
-
- In any case, I can't _force him_ to post anything, but he might
- very well decide to do so. I sure hope he does, because you guys
- are beating the bejesus out of me. I can't take this any more!
- Aaaarrrgghhh..!! :-)
-
-
- --- Maximus 2.00
-