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- From: brewer@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Steve Brewer)
- Subject: Re: Theories of meaning not relying solely on sym
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.005721.7442@sol.cs.wmich.edu>
- Organization: W M U Fako de Sciencaj Studoj
- References: <1992Nov17.221542.17555@husc3.harvard.edu> <RJC.92Nov19162241@daiches.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> <1992Nov20.111124.17630@husc3.harvard.edu>
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:57:21 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov20.111124.17630@husc3.harvard.edu>
- zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
-
- ] I see no reason to suppose that the salient contextual features are
- ] unique and irreproducible, in the sense you seem to suggest.
-
- Therein lies the problem. :-)
-
- The previous poster was arguing (rightly, I would add) that for
- any phenomenon, there are not simply n features. Each observer
- perceives a phenomenon from a different point in space and time and
- that this could (and almost certainly would) change the number of
- possible contextual features. But even if that weren't true, there are
- still problems with your model.
-
- Let us assume that only n features exist for a phenomenon. For each
- individual that experiences this phenomenon let us assume that there
- are only q salient features (we can even number them: Q(1)...Q(q)).
- Do you truly suppose that for everyone q is equal?
-
- Let us carry this one step further:
-
- Let us imagine two individuals: MZ and SB. Both experience a
- phenomenon with only n features. For MZ there are q salient features
- and for SB there are (through some incomprehensible coincidence)
- also exactly q salient features. Do you imagine that the sets of
- these salient features [MZ:{Q(1)...Q(q)} and SB:{Q(1)...Q(q)}] are
- identical? I doubt one can show that they even intersect.
-
- --
- Steven D. Brewer brewer@cs.wmich.edu * 99brewer@lab.cc.wmich.edu
- Department of Science Studies, Western Michigan University
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