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- From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
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- Subject: Re: Commitment to logic; was ...
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.010823.17595@husc3.harvard.edu>
- Date: 19 Nov 92 06:08:22 GMT
- Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov19.010823.17595
- References: <1992Nov17.214321.18500@psych.toronto.edu> <1992Nov18.042158.17562@husc3.harvard.edu> <1992Nov18.170839.29220@psych.toronto.edu>
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- In article <1992Nov18.170839.29220@psych.toronto.edu>
- christo@psych.toronto.edu (Christopher Green) writes:
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- >In article <1992Nov18.042158.17562@husc3.harvard.edu>
- >zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
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- >>In article <1992Nov17.214321.18500@psych.toronto.edu>
- >>christo@psych.toronto.edu (Christopher Green) writes:
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- >>>>Indeed. Logical reasoning tells me that if I walk out in front of a bus,
- >>>>I'll get run over. Does he mean that in the Far East this doesn't hold?
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- CG:
- >>>LOGIC tells you this?!?!? Astounding! I'd love to see that logic. I've
- >>>always thought this was contingent; true, but contingent. The things
- >>>you learn on the net...
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- MZ:
- >>Some people are vitalists; some are physicalists; a few gentle souls
- >>are semanticalists. Michael is a logicist, -- theirs is an ancient
- >>and venerable breed, and I fail to see any egregious fault with the
- >>views they espouse. Read more Spinoza, Chris.
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- CG:
- >The issue to which I was alluding was not whether natural language could
- >ultimately be reduced to *some* logic. In fact I hope it can because, under
- >at least one interpretation ofthe problem, the question amounts to whether
- >there can be a theory of language at all. The problem is that the question
- >of whether one gets run over if one steps in from of a bus, cannot be
- >answered a priori, and therefore is not a logical truth (at least it can't
- >be derived out of any of our present logics). Tally-ho!
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- Hmm... I dissent. The fact that one gets run over if one steps in
- front of a bus is arguably an analytic consequence of our concepts of
- *bus-hood* and *stepping in front of*. Consequently, it is knowable
- _a priori_.
-
- >--
- >Christopher D. Green christo@psych.toronto.edu
- >Psychology Department cgreen@lake.scar.utoronto.ca
- >University of Toronto
- >Toronto, Ontario M5S 1A1
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- cordially,
- mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
- "Le cul des femmes est monotone comme l'esprit des hommes."
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