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- From: rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe)
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- Subject: Re: Attenborough [again]
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- Date: 16 Nov 92 18:08:24 GMT
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- I haven't been able to keep up here, so I missed it when Jim Rising
- brought this back up. However, I saw this response, and since I was
- one of the principals in the original discussion I figured I should
- comment.
-
- In article <simonb.720947992@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU>
- simonb@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Simon Blomberg) writes:
-
- >rising@zoo.toronto.edu (Jim Rising) writes:
- >
- >>Perhaps enough has been said about this, but to try to answer a
- >>question posted, in the first quote (the one about the spiders),
- >>the part where he writes: "But in terms of the success of the
- >>species...that individual disaster is of limited consequence: he
- >>lost his life after...he had completed his purpose." My objection
- >>to this is that it implies that the purpose of the spider's
- >>reproductive behavior is to assure the success of the species,
- >>& most evolutionary biologists think that that's backwards.
-
- I agree completely with Jim's sentiments--the male is *not* performing
- his actions for the good of the species. I didn't get that message
- out of the passage in question because I respect Attenborough and thus
- gave the quote a charitable reading. Given the later quote, however,
- I'm perfectly willing to concede that Attenborough may have been
- thinking exactly what Jim read into the passage.
-
- I hope that this doesn't put people off in terms of reading what
- Attenborough has written--he compiles a lot of great descriptive
- information about animals and their behavior--but I also hope that
- Jim's exposition will alert readers to a big misconception that may
- pervade said writings.
-
- >Simon Blomberg simonb@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
-
- Mickey Rowe (rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu)
-