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- From: beckmann@spot.Colorado.EDU (BECKMANN PETR)
- Subject: Re: Gravity waves (Was: Galilean Electrodynamics)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov24.025221.14364@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
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- Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:52:21 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov23.202755.22096@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
- > Petr Beckmann, could you please reprint at least _some_ of
- >Gerber's reasoning? Not everybody has century-old back issues of
- >German-language physics journals handy.
- > I may add that it is _easy_ to "derive" Einstein's formula
- >simply by adding some fudge-factor terms to the Newtonian Lagrangian,
- >and finding out what fudge-factor combinations give the "right"
- >result.
- Gerber's derivation is based only on the assumption that
- gravity propagates with velocity c, otherwise (understandably so,
- in 1898) he uses only classical physics and Euclidian space.
- His formula has no fudge factor. It is not reminiscent of,
- or similar to, Einstein's formula, but IDENTICAL with it.
- As for century-old German physics journals, just send your butler
- or maid to the library for an inter-library loan. The U of Colo., for
- example, has the 1898 volume. As for Annalen d. Physik 1919, tell your
- butler or footman to try your own college library.
- >
- > If both Newton and Gerber's formulas have a fudge factor, then
- >their "superior fit" is inevitable, since one has to fit one parameter
- >to effectively one data point. However, Einstein's formula has _no_
- >fudge factors. Either it's the right value, or it isn't.
- NO fudge factor in either. For Gerber see above, for Newton,
- see Cure (quoted previously) as Newton's geometrical derivations are
- often difficult to follow. I seem to remember you wrote under the name
- of Master Buster. I now see what that means: Blabber first, look up
- later, if at all.
- Petr Beckmann
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