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- From: dnash@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dave Nash)
- Subject: Re: I can't see stars anymore at night with naked eye
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- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:00:32 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov21.212451.5462@cbfsb.cb.att.com> wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey) writes:
- >But seriously, folks, the haze/light pollution in my area has made all the
- >stars not visible. Has anyone who lives in/near large cities verify my
- >observation? Another possibly related observation is that a clear daytime
- >sky is not as a deep blue at zenith as it used to be. Did that volcano
- >put -that- much dust into the upper atmosphere?
-
- Well for several years I lived about 20 mi. from Los Angeles and never had
- THAT much trouble under clear weather, despite smog and unbelievably bad
- light pollution. Of course it wasn't pparticularly good -- a limiting
- magnitude of about +3.5 was about par for the course. Best would be around
- +4.5 near the zenith. It usually had to be
- pretty foggy (the white variety) before it became impossible to see
- ANY stars. Then there was the time in which the limiting magnitude through
- my 10" scope was +8, but that was an unusual event indeed . . .
-
- >
- >Have observatories and amateurs with telescopes in dark areas noticed a
- >drop in star brightness? Or is the dust (assuming that that's what it is)
- >reflecting back down more city light?
-
- I haven't, but I'm the wrong person to ask -- I got a nice large scope about
- a year ago, and as a result I suddenly spent a lot more time doing deep-sky
- observing. This meant I got better at seeing faint stuff, with the result
- that my naked eye limiting magnitude has gotten noticeably better over the
- last year or so. (I'd guess by about 0.5).
-
- >I live about 20 miles from New York City, a big light pollution source.
-
- I recall (possibly wrongly) an article in S&T a few years ago about someone
- who, living within NYC limits, managed to dodge enough of the lights to get
- a naked-eye limiting magnitude of around +4.5 -- not wonderful, but still
- pretty good given the circumstances; enough to find objects like the Owl
- Nebula with relatively modest equipment.
-
- I had similar experiences in the LA area when the smog cleared. I'd suspect
- haze or low clouds or something similar in your case.
-
-
- ---> Dave
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