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- From: metares@well.sf.ca.us (Tom Van Flandern)
- Subject: Gravity waves (Was: Galilean Electrodynamics)
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:32:53 GMT
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- In a reply to Mark Schlegel, gsh7w@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg
- Hennessy) wrote an especially fair review of the Galilean Electrodynamics
- journal, given his differences of opinion with Beckmann. But he does raise
- one issue deserving of further comment:
-
- > Beckmann has stated that his theory does not allow for gravational
- > radiation from orbiting neutron stars, but the pulsar PSR 1913+16 is
- > losing energy at the exact rate predicted by GR through gravational
- > radiation, so for me, is a fatal flaw for Beckmann's theory.
-
- It would be nice if we could get this question of what the binary
- pulsars do and don't show straightened out. There is no doubt that Taylor
- and Damour left the impression in their early papers that the existence of
- gravitational radiation had been verified. But they have been sharply
- criticized for this, and their current story is a rather more modest claim.
- They now seem to maintain that the orbits of PSR 1913+16 and 1534+12 are
- consistent with GR + gravity waves, thereby providing a verification of
- sorts. Moreover, the orbits are inconsistent with many variations of GR.
- That's valuable to know.
-
- But the gravity wave term is not uniquely separable from other
- parameters in the solutions (namely, periastron motion and the bending/delay
- term). [See Taylor, J.H., Wolszczan, A., Damour, T., and Weisberg, J.M.,
- "Experimental constraints on strong-field relativistic gravity," Nature 355,
- 132-136 (1992); and Damour, T., "General relativity and experiment: a brief
- overview," Class.Quantum Grav. 9, 55-59 (1992).] This means that GR without
- any gravity waves and certain other theories can still be made to fit the
- pulsar data equally well by adjusting the masses and elements until the
- periastron rotates a bit faster and takes up what appeared like a small
- acceleration in the original solution.
-
- As if this were not reason enough to adopt a wait-and-see stance about
- gravity waves, there are now reasons to doubt the theoretical model for
- gravitational radiation used by Taylor and Damour in their solutions. See
- the new paper: Yu Xin (A. Yu), "Does Einstein's G.R. theory predict
- gravitational radiation of PSR 1913+16?", Astrophys.&SpaceSci. 194, 159-163
- (1992). This author concludes that "the Einstein approximation scheme gives
- no gravitational radiation. ... The claim that observed data from PSR
- 1913+16 has verified Einstein's gravitational radiation theory is, therefore,
- groundless."
-
- I realize that Greg was quoting conventional wisdom. Is it time to
- alter the conventional wisdom about gravity waves and binary pulsars?
- -|Tom|-
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- Tom Van Flandern / Washington, DC / metares@well.sf.ca.us
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