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- From: arkdr@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Dave Rindos)
- Newsgroups: sci.anthropology
- Subject: Re: Ethnobiological Classification
- Date: 17 Nov 1992 07:26:48 +0800
- Organization: The University of Western Australia
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- gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick) writes:
- >In article <1689D6DEB.JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com> JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
- > > His views resemble those of Rosch, a psychologist who was once married to
- > > an anthropologist. The major points are that the structure in the world is
- > > "picked up" by the perceiver, to a large extent independently of culture,
- > > because (switching to Rosch's terms) categories at the basic level (or
- > > generic rank) maximixe within category similarity and between category
- > > distinctions. This is interesting reading for addressing the issue of
- > > the interface between culture and structurally driven perception (by
- > > that I mean perception which is so influenced by the structure in the
- > > world that it is similar across cultures.)
-
- >One of the many difficulties I have with this model is its apparent
- >assumption that humans universally categorise entities a priori, where
- >in Aboriginal Australia there is no attempt at categorisation at all,
- >and entities are very much given a back seat to relationships. That is,
- >there is no record of "within category similarity and between category
- >distinctions" here, but rather since Aboriginal entites are broken down
- >into their constituent behaviours their common perception of layers of
- >"among behaviouristic relationships" is mapped onto a continental grid
- >process referred to as The Dreaming.
-
- I think you are getting overly subtle about a simple, but very important
- observation. Folk Taxonomy (the study of naming systems) has pretty
- well demonstrated that people all over the world *perceive* and *name*
- organisms in the same manner. The taxa of folk naming systems are
- easily mapped upon the biological classification systems we use in
- biology. This is true not only at the species level but at higher
- levels as well (genus, family, and higher levels).
-
- Why should this occur? The only feasable candidate is that all humans
- perceive (at least in terms of the observations applied -- the problem
- of "worms") the Natural Order that exists in the world. In biology, of
- course, this natural order is a consequence of descent with
- modification. Hence, plants and animals appear similiar, to a large
- extent, because of a shared evolutionary history. Humans take this
- "external" data and use it to form the basis for their naming systems and
- classification systems. In other words, there IS an external order
- which is merely being reflected in human constructs about the world. A
- classic story here involves some birds (in New Guinea, as I recall).
- Science had treated the birds as one species. The locals recognized two
- species taxa (based, as I recall, on habitat differences). The locals
- were right: allopatric species of similar morphologies were in fact
- involved.
-
- Note in saying this, I am NOT claiming that the various cultures need
- "significate" the taxa in the same manner -- the point (I think :{) )
- of what Gil was referring to above. The "meaning" of the various taxa
- a very likely to differ. A clear example from our own cultural history
- would be the "Doctrine of Signs". This held that god made the various
- medicianal plants in such a manner that each were marked to show how
- they would be useful as medicine, etc. Hence, "liverworts" or
- "lungwort". This is a different matter.
-
- Or maybe not. If we begin with the observation taken from Folk Taxonomy
- (that there is a "real" Natural Order which is reflected in naming
- systems -- a natural order that is *external* and *independent* of
- humans) we are led to another hypothesis. The "rules" of relationships
- and "meaning" are equally a form of natural order. A process governs
- the way these are created in the social realm. And this process is quite
- as independent of the cultural actors as biological evolution itself.
- This process would govern any "signification" in which a culture might
- indulge.
-
- This, of course, leads us to appreciate that there would be "better" and
- "worse" ways of describing these cultural processes. The external,
- objective process would stand as the "reality" against which any
- given description of it could be judged. But this is merely justifying
- the notion that a science of culture is possible.
-
- Dave
-