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- From: mayne@sync.cs.fsu.edu (William Mayne)
- Subject: Re: Free ascent
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- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 23:29:19 GMT
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- In article <0f40=jG00iV203aGVN@andrew.cmu.edu> ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon) writes:
- >
- >I did my first emergency free ascent from 80' with no problem because
- >every time I ascended from the wreck we were diving on (three times a
- >day for 4 weeks before the incident) I did a free ascent "just for
- >practice." I was damn glad I did when my reg finally self-destructed.
- >I remembered the only thing I had to and that was to EXHALE. Luckily, I
- >didn't miss any decompression stops.
- >
- >The second time was from 200' where I had run out of air and believe me,
- >it was scary. Again, though, successful, because I had continued my
- >practice to come up without the regulator in my mouth "just for
- >practice" from depths as deep as 150' to my first stop.
- >
- >I would be interested in reading comments (not flames) pro and con on
- >recreational divers practicing "just in case."
- >
- >Peter
- >NAUI Inst. #1434
-
- There may be a fine line between a comment and a flame here.
-
- I wouldn't think that practicing free ascents from deeper
- than some not very deep limit would be risky because you
- would either be ascending too fast for practice or practicing
- too slowly for a real emergency. Ascending from 150 feet to,
- say, a 30 foot stop should take at least 2 minutes. That is
- assuming an ascent rate of 60 feet per minute. Even slower
- rates are now advised for safety. (Yes, I know faster rates
- aren't so bad at greater depths.)
-
- But I expect that if I was really out of air slowing my ascent
- rate would be the last thing on my mind. It is more important to
- reach the surface, and I wouldn't take chances estimating how
- slowly I could go and still make it on the air in my lungs.
-
- For deep diving it is more appropriate to practice prevention
- than to practice free ascents. By prevention I mean things like
- good air (or gas) management, redundant breathing apparatus, buddy
- contact, and maintaining equipment to minimize the risk of
- equipment failures. (I add "if appropriate" to buddy contact since
- I don't want to appear to encourage reliance on buddies in extreme
- situations.)
-
- At the risk of crossing over into flames, I'd like to ask: What
- kind of diving are you doing to have had to do not one but (at
- least) two free ascents from significant depth? How did you
- manage to run out of air at 200 feet? Think of this as accident
- analysis in the interest of knowing what to look out for rather
- than questioning your practices.
-
- Bill Mayne
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