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- From: gd@gehenna.sw.stratus.com (Greg Dawe)
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- Subject: Re: dangerous misconception (was Re: Human bodies explode...)
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- Date: 18 Nov 92 18:41:29 GMT
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- In article <1e8ttiINN6s7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> jdale@cats.ucsc.edu (Jonathan Dale) writes:
- >
- >I would question this whole tolerance concept.
-
- It's healthy to question anything and everything to do with diving. The
- issue of tolerance/adaptation to nitrogen narcosis is totally based on
- anecdotal evidence from within the diving community. I had heard that a
- UHMS member had published something about this phenomenon, but a call to DAN
- turned up nothing (DAN did do a videographed study of narcosis with some
- volunteers from the military).
-
- For the sake of clearer discussion let me clarify what I mean by "tolerance".
- From my original posting:
-
- "There are some divers who are able to function well at 200 FSW, and a rare
- few, who can function well even deeper. These divers have been diving deep
- on air for years, and have developed some tolerance for the symptoms of
- narcosis." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- ^^^^^^^^
- In other words, we're not talking about eliminating narcosis. How then, do
- we explain the fact that there are divers frequently, diving deeper than
- 150 FSW, deeper than 200 FSW, and even deeper than 250 FSW on air? These
- divers are familiar, through progressive experience, with the symptoms of
- narcosis, and their personal limitations. With this familiarity comes a
- "tolerance", or an understanding of what can be accomplished under a given
- amount of narcosis. If things feel like they're getting too "out of hand"
- the dive is aborted.
-
- Other things are done in order to stack as many things as possible in favor
- of the deep air diver. Exertion is kept to a minimum, particularly during
- the descent. Class-A regulators are used in order to deliver the volume of
- air necessary at depth and thereby minimize CO2 buildup, which contributes
- to narcosis. For safety, task loading is kept to a minimum because of the
- dulled mental capacity and delayed responsiveness. Deep training is done in
- small increments, never in large leaps or bounds. None of these things are
- considered guarrantees: deep divers must understand and accept the inherent
- risks.
-
- Some quotable quotes:
-
- "The more you dive deep, the more you get used to it."
- -Gary Gentile, in "Gentile on Narcosis", AquaCorps DEEP issue, pg 51
-
- "It is generally agreed by divers that frequent exposure to narcosis
- leads to adaptation."
- "There is some evidence of adaptation that is specific to narcosis."
- -Barry Fowler PhD, in "A Performance Guide to Managing Narcosis",
- AquaCorps DEEP issue, pg 50
-
- >Based on what I've been taught and my personal experience, it seems that
- >nitrogen narcosis affects mainly judgement and creative thinking. It tends
- >NOT to affect performance of routine acts.
-
- I disagree - I don't think we can predict what higher mental processes will
- be affected on a given dive. I do agree that routine/repetitive tasks seem
- to be more easily performed than non-routine tasks as long as they aren't
- concurrent. Perhaps this is the real basis for tolerance i.e relying on
- routine, well-known, well-rehearsed, serial tasks, rather than on higher
- functions such as memory or judgement.
-
- As always, let me say that this is just a discussion. I am not advocating
- any particular form or practice of diving. Narcosis is a very real and
- dangerous phenomenon, and a serious risk that must be carefully evaluated by
- divers.
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