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- From: lpc@dickens.com (Luis P Caamano)
- Subject: Re: mysterious runners death in Sweden
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.153725.17596@dickens.com>
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:37:25 GMT
- References: <perel.1.721904917@dhhalden.no> <1992Nov16.101150.3779@kth.se>
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- In article <1992Nov16.101150.3779@kth.se> TordM@VanA.PhySto.SE writes:
- >
- > I seem to recall they all had an infection in their heart, cos of some
- >reason when they were training with a cold the infection "travelled" to
- >the heart... The bacteria TWAR seem to be some track they think is
- >doing the hard work by contaminating others
- >
- >
-
- This is a message I got from the O-List:
-
- From: Tapio Leino <uunet!marten!vtt.fi!Tapio.Leino>
- Message-Id: <9211160800.AA07937@rat.vtt.fi>
- To: Orienteering@Graphics.Cornell.EDU
- Subject: About the TWAR in us.
- Cc: Tapio.Leino@vtt.fi
- Status: RO
-
-
- Because they had found out in Sweden that most of the seven died orienteers
- were either born at the central Sweden (Bergslagen) or had lived there
- they tested orienteers and some common people who were donoring their blood
- to find out about the number of people with the counter agent of TWAR.
-
- 153 male and 94 female orienteers were tested. And 224 blood donators were
- tested. The results showed that among the orienteers 63% had the counter
- agent of TWAR which means that they sometimes have had the TWAR. Among the
- other group a total of 69% (the blood donators) had the counter agent in
- their blood. It looks like the TWAR is more common amongst the other people
- than the orienteers.
-
- Tapio Leino
- Technical Research Centre of Finland / Laboratory of Structural Engineering
- mail: VTT/Rakennetekniikan laboratorio, P.O. Box 26, SF-02151 ESPOO, Finland
- tel: -358-0-456 6683, telefax: -358-0-456 7003 e-mail: Tapio.Leino@vtt.fi
-
-
- I guess that removes TWAR from the possibilities. In this other
- message they show that it happens not only to orienteers:
-
-
- From: James E Baker <uunet!marten!CompuServe.COM!76070.630>
- To: o <orienteering@graphics.cornell.edu>
- Subject: Lex on death/a physician's comments
- Message-Id: <921115210725_76070.630_CHL35-2@CompuServe.COM>
- Status: RO
-
- Lex Bundschuh (a U.S. doctor and orienteer) wrote up some nice notes
- about the Swedish deaths. Although much is similar to what has been
- said, I thought they were worth posting, as Lex has put some research
- into this (and is a doctor), and they are less alarmist than I'm
- afraid that IOF letter seemed (I was reading much of it as I typed, as
- I wanted to get some solid, official info out quickly. On reflection,
- it was less calm and measured than I'd expected based on the earlier
- Swedish Federation fax, which my flaky software accidentally deleted
- in front of my and JJ's eyes. I summarized it earlier). Lex hopes to
- get more information later when tests are complete.
-
- OBSERVATIONS ON DEATHS AMONGST SWEDISH ORIENTEERS
-
- Last week in USA Today [ed - a nationwide US newspaper, general interest
- but a bit lighter and fluffier than the New York Times] there was an
- article claiming that a mysterious illness had killed 7 elite Swedish
- orienteers [ed - apparently more prominent than the article on the North
- American Championships]. As a physician and orienteer, I would like to
- clarify this. According to the Swedish Orienteering Federation, 7 elite
- orienteers have died shortly after training over the past 3 years. All
- 7 had "flu-like" illnesses and continued to train. There is nothing
- unique to orinteering that puts one at risk for sudden death. Viral
- ("flu-like") illnesses are usually quite benign and there are no
- serious consequences. However, on rare occasions, the heart can become
- involved; so the heart muscle is weakened. When this happens, any
- increased demand on the heart can lead to sudden cardiac death. An
- initial theory that a single infectious agent caused these deaths has not
- been proven. A group of medical experts in Sweden is investigating
- elite orienters to determine if there is any infectious source present.
-
- Although the figure of 7 deaths among elite orienteers seems alarming,
- similar things have occurred in other sports. During the 1986-88
- seasons, 4 young male Georgia basketball players collapsed from
- sudden cardiac death.
-
- The bottom line for the average orienteer is: 1) orienteers are not
- uniquely susceptable to exercise related heart problems, 2) if you
- have a "flu-like illness" with aches and fevers, don't train hard.
-
- Lex Bundschuh
-
- [ed- our national sponsor's marketers came upon the article while
- looking for coverage of the recent North American Champs, which they
- sponsored. They were quite distressed.]
-
-
- And this other message suggest that this is not the first time it
- happens and that all the media coverage comes from the fact that
- the whole swedish orienteering team has been banned from
- training until further notice.
-
-
- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:54:00 -0230
- From: uunet!marten!kean.ucs.mun.ca!mulligan
- Reply-To: uunet!marten!kean.ucs.mun.ca!mulligan
- To: orienteering@graphics.cornell.edu
- Cc: mulligan@kean.ucs.mun.ca
- Message-Id: <00963B1D.807C0460.17166@Leif.ucs.mun.ca>
- Subject: orienteering deaths
- Status: RO
-
- The recent postings on the subject of TWAR and the deaths of several
- orienteers after training while recovering from flu like symptoms
- sounded familiar to me. Sure enough, in checking back over some old
- issues of "The Orienteer", the magazine of the British Orienteering
- Federation I found the following in the April 1976 issue:
-
- "It was with profound shock amounting almost to disbelief that
- we learned of the untimely death of Mike Wells-Cole on
- March 7.
-
- Mike had been ill with food poisoning and then a dose of 'flu
- but he seemed to be fully recovered and back in the swing of
- his normal busy life. On Saturday March 6, he worked till
- 10pm at Willesden Sports Centre to help a colleague who wanted
- the night off. Then on Sunday March 7, after a training run,
- he suddenly succumbed to a rare virus infection of the lung."
-
- The article goes on to describe Mike's achievements in orienteering.
- He was one of, if not, the best British orienteer at the time, with
- the best British placing in a World Championships up till then (18th
- in 1970).
-
- The August issue has a brief comment on ths risks of training after
- 'flu and promises a follow-up in a the October issue. Its not in that
- issue and I do not have the December or any later issues to follow up
- on the cause of his death. These two articles do suggest that he may
- have had a viral infection rather than the bacterial infection that is
- being associated with the current deaths. However, it might be
- interesting to know if the exact cause of his infection was
- established at that time. It does seem, however, that we are in many
- ways reliving an old experience.
-
- The August issue also contains an item that might be of interest. As
- a memorial to Mike Wells-Cole, a trophy was to be awarded biennially
- to the Briton achieving the best performance in teh World
- Championships. Can any of the British readers of this list verify
- that this is still so?
-
- Martin Mulligan Dept. of Biochemistry
- mulligan@kean.ucs.mun.ca Memorial University of Newfoundland
-
-
- My conclusion is BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU'RE SICK.
- --
- Luis P. Caamano | lpc@dickens.com
- Dickens Data Systems, Inc. Atlanta, GA | uunet!dickens.com!lpc
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