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- From: conway@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Steve Conway)
- Newsgroups: rec.running
- Subject: Re: Jogger is killed when hunter mistakes him for a deer
- Message-ID: <CONWAY.92Nov15182225@watt.cstr.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: 15 Nov 92 18:22:25 GMT
- References: <1992Nov13.031054.24594@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> <8f1JCLm00iV2Q2XmNc@andrew.cmu.edu>
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- Organization: Dept. of Linguistics, University of Edinburgh
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- In-Reply-To: lowrie@eddy.engin.umich.edu's message of 14 Nov 92 21:58:46 GMT
-
- >>On 14 Nov 92 21:58:46 GMT, lowrie@eddy.engin.umich.edu (Robert Byron Lowrie) said:
-
- > In article <8f1JCLm00iV2Q2XmNc@andrew.cmu.edu>, Thomas Oligino <to0b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
- >> Hopefully the family of the Runner will sue Mr. Cook for every thing
- >> that he and his family have. It won't bring the man back but at least it
- >> serves as some form of punitive action.
-
- > I'm guessing that this news has been given so much response because
- > most of us abhor the idea of hunting, myself included. If the Runner
- > had been killed by a drunk driver, I doubt we would have gotten such a
- > response in this group. I would imagine many more runners are killed
- > by drunk drivers than shot by hunters. In perspective, hunting is a
- > legal activity, and when you equip a human with a deadly weapon,
- > accidents are bound to happen. Mr. Cook should get no more punishment
- > than a careless (NOT drunk or reckless) driver.
-
- I think this argument is kind of backwards. Anyone who fires a weapon
- at anything that moves, without identifying it first is far more
- likely to kill or injure another human being than a hunter who is
- careful. Similarily, speeding or drunken drivers are much more likely
- to kill or injure than other drivers. Mr. Cook was reckless (as far
- as I can tell from the postings here), not merely careless.
-
- Anyone who chooses to blast away at anything that moves, or to speed,
- or to drink and drive, is deliberately taking actions that greatly
- increase the dangers to other people. All of these actions should be
- regarded as anti-social and unacceptable. Unfortunately, at present
- they are often seen as perfectly OK. (Although, in the UK at least,
- drink-driving has become unacceptable). We should be at as outraged
- about the death-toll due to drunken and aggressive driving as we are
- about this kind of tragic incident.
-
- As for us not being outraged if a runner was killed by a drunken
- driver, I have certainly been outraged by the incidents I know of
- (including instances of vehicles deliberately aimed at runners). The
- rec.bicycle groups regularily have reports of deaths of cyclists due
- to drunken, reckless, homicidal or incredibly careless drivers,
- complete with howls of outrage (often at the paltryness of the
- punishment, if any, meted on the driver).
-
- Steve.
-
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