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- From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.211831.6091@pmafire.inel.gov>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 21:18:31 GMT
- Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
- Subject: Re: Colossus (was Re: Flight Commander elaboration request)
- Summary:
- References: <1992Nov18.215404.22396%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu> <1992Nov20.010109.18690@megatek.com> <1992Nov20.152312.9720@engage.pko.dec.com>
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- buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com () writes:
- >James Hsieh writes:
- >
- >>Or in some cases, equipment is changed, like I believe the trains on
- >>Colossus at SFMM were after the woman fell out in the late 70's (the
- >>ride has had 3 different sets of trains in its history, I can't remember
- >>who made the first set, but the second set were PTC trains which were
- >>installed at about the same as the incident,
-
- What's on there now?
-
- >If my memory serves me correctly, Colossus' first set of trains were
- >a set of traditional IAD rolling stock, just like the ones (still)
- >running the rails on La Montana Rusa at Chapultapec Park in Mexico
- >City (Colossus was modeled after La Montana Rusa ... it's not a copy,
- >but it was inspiried by it).
-
- Well, my memory is probably not that good here, but...
-
- I was but a young high-school student living about 45 minutes away from
- Magic Mountain when Colossus opened. Riding it was the most terrifying
- experience of my life! Those drops! And all that airtime! Yikes!
- (If I could go back and ride the untamed Colossus again, it probably
- wouldn't be nearly as terrifying to me now, but ahh, the memories.)
-
- Now, being a young neophyte completely ignorant in the ways of the
- coaster enthusiast, I paid absolutely no attention to the trains, but my
- memory is of trains that must have been PTCs. I remember nothing like
- traditional IADs (though that would have made sense, since IAD designed
- the coaster). I rode the coaster before the death, so the PTCs were not
- installed in response to that. Perhaps they were added due to concerns
- over the rather intense airtime. Dunno.
-
- BTW, these trains had ratcheting lap bars that were like those on a
- Schwarzkopf train. In my youthful ignorance, I pushed the bar all the
- way down to my lap, and it *hurt* on the airtime. That hard rubber (or
- foam or whatever it is) pad digging into my thigh was no fun. At least
- the hated orange bars are *soft*!
-
- They had a problem with the lap bars coming up when the train was
- released from the station (it happened to me once -- took me until about
- 2/3 of the way up the lift hill and *lots* of effort before I could get
- it down again -- talk about scared). Magic Mountain added little cable
- clips to the sides of the lap bars so they wouldn't go all the way up if
- they released. It was a kludge of major proportions.
-
- One of the local news channels had an interview with a woman who was
- built like the one who died in the accident (short and rather heavy).
- She said that she rode Colossus and the operator couldn't get the safety
- cable clipped, but told her it wouldn't be any big deal. Her bar went
- up and she was unable to get it back down. She said she had to hang on
- *hard* for the entire ride in order to stay in. The speculation was
- that this may have been what happened in the death. (I don't know if
- the airtime was *that* severe. Do any coasters out there have severe
- enough airtime to actually throw you from the car? As I recall, the
- woman fell out of the train at a fairly low point in the circuit, like
- one of the many small bumps featured on the ride, which may well
- implicate the airtime as at least a contributing factor.)
-
- After the accident, as I recall, seat belts were added.
-
- I don't know what the lawsuit revealed, other than that Magic Mountain
- lost, went bankrupt, and was bought out by Six Flags. And the Colossus
- was tamed to a pale shadow of its former self.
-
- Anybody wanna go check the court records? :^)
-
- Back to the original question of ``is it weird to ride a killer
- coaster?'' -- I've (knowingly) ridden two killer coasters other than
- Colossus, both at Lagoon, in Farmington, Utah. There was a 13-ish year
- old boy killed on Lagoon's Roller Coaster (1921-vintage woodie) a few
- years ago. He was in the last seat, and was probably horsing around.
- There was no lawsuit, and Lagoon admitted no wrongdoing, as far as I
- know. (They did admit that the other death, a small child killed on the
- kiddie coaster within a week or so of this death, was their fault.) The
- infamous orange ratcheting lap bars replaced the fixed lapbars on Roller
- Coaster's PTC trains after the accident.
-
- But riding a roller coaster is no doubt much safer than the drive on the
- freeway to get to the park! Those accidents just don't make the local
- newspaper and TV news.
-
- Geoff
-
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