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- From: ems@michael.apple.com (E. Michael Smith)
- Newsgroups: rec.guns
- Subject: Re: Weapon for defense from cows
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.041754.24605@michael.apple.com>
- Date: 22 Nov 92 20:20:04 GMT
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- You left out option number:
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- 5) A cattle prod. Designed for exactly the task of nudging ornry
- cattle in the direction you want to go. While not as flashy as
- a decent .44 magnum, it doesn't make as much of a mess and the
- 'cow' learns to respect you... after using the .44, you will
- just have to 'train' the replacement 'cow' too ...
-
- My dad used these with great effect on his 'cows' ... even the
- particulary onry young bull that got its attitude adjusted
- along with a name change to 'Mr. Steer' ... (For the non-farmers,
- a steer is a used-to-be-mle bovine.)
-
- In article <1992Nov21.134449.10187@reed.edu> todd@reed.edu (Todd Ellner) writes:
-
- #My question is, what is a good weapon to carry in case we run into the nastier
- #one's far from our vehicle? So far the recommendations are:
-
- #1) A 12-gauge pump shotgun loaded with slugs and kept with the tools wherever
- # we work. Pro: we can afford it, and my wife (who is not as strong as I)
- # can handle it. Should stop cows. Con: If it's with the tools it might not
- # be near enough. Actually carrying it strapped on one's back is painful,
- # tedious, and downrught dangerous when clearing brush or doing construction
- # work.
-
- This would work, but I think it is serious overkill ... they use .22 LR
- to dispatch cows in some slaughter operations. The .22 has to be placed into
- the brain in a head shot, though.
-
- #4) A good .44 magnum. One informant swears by the single action Rugers.
- # Another says a more expensive double action pieces are the only way to go.
- # Pro: Should stop a cow. Can be carried in holster while working. Not too
- # expensive. Con: My wife's does not feel whe is strong enough to handle
- # this weapon right now.
-
- This, or a .357 Magnum, is what I'd go for. (Provided the local laws
- let you transport handguns without too much grief...) The person in
- the cubical across from mine is about 110 lbs, female, blond, vegetarian,
- about 21 years old, very quiet and somewhat introverted, and packs a .44 Mag.
-
- I think you will find that a decent .44 Mag isn't all THAT hard to shoot...
-
- Some issues: Get a heavy one. The Ruger RedHawk is great for what
- you want to do. Get stainless steel unless you really like taking
- care of guns. If the .44 Mag load is too hot for your spouse, she
- can load it up with .44 Specials (which should also be enough for
- what you want to do...but alot less kick..). Why a heavy one?
- I once shot a Thompson Contender with a light 10" bbl (a very light
- gun) in .44 Mag. It was a, um, religious experience for a novice...
-
- If your friend is recommending it, borrow his for your spouse to try!
- Why speculate when a trip to the range can solve the question.
-
- For what you want to do, either the single or double action would
- be fine, just practice till you know how it works without thinking.
-
- #5) Various smaller caliber handguns. I'm not sure I want to just hurt over
- # 1000 lbs. of angry muscle at close range. The person who recommended these
- # said that the steer would probably not be killed outright but would decide
- # to take its business elsewhere. Great, a wounded dangerous animal in the
- # brush. That';s not my idea of a good time.
-
- You want a head shot in any case. A soft tissue injury with a .44 Mag
- or even a shotgun slug in a grazing shot to the rump will also give you
- a mad bull... The slug to the head is THE shot to practice. Besides,
- the bull WILL be comming at you when you shoot, won't it???
-
- The only other smaller caliber I'd consider is the .357 Magnum. It is
- also able to do the job, and is widely available. I've had both the
- Ruger single and double actions in this caliber and they have worked
- flawlessly. While Ruger is somewhat politically incorrect lately, he
- still makes some darned good revolvers...
-
- #Does anyone here have any other suggestions? Currently we're leaning towards
- #1) and 4) on the assumption that if six shots and a bunch of slugs from the
- #shotgun don't stop it the bull deserves to stomp a mudhole in our collective
- #body.
-
- I'd put a .357 on the wife's hip, a .44 mag on me, and a cattle prod
- on the other hip of both of us... If the 'cow' presents a broadside or
- rump, prod it. In case of charging bull, draw and fire. If it just
- moos stupidly from >20 feet away, shout at it ... and call it names
- like 'rump roast' and 'hamburger' ;-)
-
-
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- E. Michael Smith ems@apple.COM
-
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