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- From: pafford@metis.rtp.dg.com (Randy Pafford)
- Newsgroups: rec.guns
- Subject: Re: .45 caliber handguns
- Message-ID: <9211212012.AA23108@dg-rtp.dg.com>
- Date: 21 Nov 92 23:35:05 GMT
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- In article <27504@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, bercov@bevsun.bev.lbl.gov (John Bercovitz) writes:
- |> In article <1992Nov17.023032.19198@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com
- |> (Don Baldwin) writes:
-
- stuff deleted that I generally agreed with.
- |>
- |> The GC won't solve the problem. To be honest, it shoots about a 3" or 4"
- |> 5-shot group at 25 yards before it's accurized. Most of the other
- |> manufacturers do a little worse. Not that that matters if you're going
- |> to have it built up. One advantage of Colt guns is that they're generally
- |> better finished. But you sure get to pay a lot for the aesthetics.
- |>
- |> Springfield sells some very good guns for 2K$ or thereabouts. You could
- |> go for something like that. Or you could by a GC or Gov't model and
- |> have it accurized for maybe $700 additional. I guess the question you
- |> have to ask yourself is, "How long am I going to be satisfied with 4"
- |> groups at 25 yards?"
- |>
- |> John Bercovitz (JHBercovitz@lbl.gov)
- |>
-
- I just wanted to throw in a couple of opinions on the last bit . . .
-
- 1) Accurizing -- I would expect to pay $200 - $300 to have a match
- barrel and bushing fitted to a 1911 or clone. Properly done,
- this will give it that somewhat nebulous "target accuracy." For another
- few bucks you could get the slide fitted to the frame, but that's
- less important.
-
- 2) After accurizing, you could pay $100 or less and have a pretty good trigger
- job done (warning -- trigger jobs are works of art, not science).
- Other typical 1911 tunes are beavertails (about $75 installed), and
- adjustable sights ($150 installed). Then you get into the more
- exotic stuff.
-
- 3) I don't think any of the previous posts on this subject, including
- mine, emphasized enough that a gun used much for paper-punching
- requires adjustable sights. It's just not fun trying to hit something
- when you can't adjust your sights for distance and load and
- aim right at it :-).
- Gold Cups have adjustables, other 1911s and clones usually won't, nor
- will SIGs, etc. You can get a Glock with adjustable sights, but don't
- -- the Glock adjustable sights are small and fragile.
-
- 4) The Gold Cup adjustable sights are functionally very good (precise,
- nice sight picture) but as John noted somewhat fragile for heavy use.
- That's one reason people often start with Govt models instead; for
- about $150 you can get very durable adjustable sights installed,
- good for target use and sturdy enough for other uses.
-
- 5) 4 inch groups at 25 yards is maybe a little pessimistic; you might get
- 2 to 3 inches if you are lucky, and find loads the gun likes.
-
- Like I said before; buy a Glock and a .22 :-). You'll have two toys
- for about the price of one. It's easy to buy a .22 that is more accurate
- than just about any centerfire semi-autos.
-
- Randy
-
-