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- From: jheath@fieldofdreams.npirs.purdue.edu (Jim Heath)
- Newsgroups: rec.guns
- Subject: Re: Bad tactical position ( was Psychology in Defense)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.210504.5482@CERIS.Purdue.EDU>
- Date: 19 Nov 92 15:13:05 GMT
- Sender: magnum@mimsy.umd.edu
- Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University
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- #From article <1992Nov17.150521.9088@news.yale.edu>, by swatt%mickey@net.yale.edu (Alan Watt):
- #
- # In article <1992Nov16.212303.14944@news.acns.nwu.edu>, mikea@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael A. Atkinson) writes:
- # |> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
- # |>
- # |> # I remember a thing known as "Turkish Revenge." Basically, if
- # |> #you shot somebody below the waist it wasn't considered attempted murder
- # |> #but only assault with a deadly weapon.
- # |> # <...>
- # |> #
- # |> # [MODERATOR: Let's underscore right away what said jury would
- # |> # hear, then you be the judge about sympathy: "So, Mr. Sorenson,
- # |> # you DECIDED to shoot my poor client in the kneecap, rendering
- # |> # unto him a permanently disabling wound with extensive pain and
- # |> # suffering
- # |> # <...>
- # |>
- # |> The one thing I've had drilled into me the most after basic firearms safety
- # |> (treat all weapons as if they are loaded, don't put your finger on the
- # |> trigger until you are ready to fire, never point one at something you are
- # |> not willing to have dead) is that you shoot to STOP. You shoot, hopefully
- # |> at the center of mass, until the guy has STOPPED.
- # |>
- # |> I really don't think that shooting below the waist is a good idea unless
- # |> that's your only good target.
- #
- #
- # Massad Ayoob recommends that when you are covering someone who *MIGHT*
- # have a weapon, your point of aim should be at the waist or the pelvic
- # area. Most important reason is that your gun won't block your view of his
- # hands. Additionally, it might have some extra intimidating effect.
- #
- # If the perp. produces a contact weapon and charges, Ayoob recommends
- # you shoot for the pelvic area, the theory being that will have a
- # better chance of dropping him. With a contact weapon, if perp. can't
- # reach you he can't hurt you. If perp. produces a firearm, you need
- # to shift your aim back up to center of mass.
- #
- # Note, this does not dispute anything said by OHM regarding the
- # defensibility of intentional wounding.
- #
-
- Alistair Maclain (sp?) ("Guns of Navarrone", "Ice Station Zebra",
- "Golden Gate", etc.) often had his heroes using small caliber
- guns (Lilliputs) and aiming for the inside of the hip (femoral
- artery). His claim was that it would disable the opponent
- quickly from shock presuming the artery was hit. He also claimed
- the guy would die fairly quickly unless there was a good surgeon
- available and that the he would be crippled as well. Has anyone
- seen any real data on these theories?
- --
- "Land of song, said the warrior bard, Jim Heath
- Though all the world betrays thee.
- One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard, (The Minstrel Boy)
- One faithful harp will praise thee." (Thomas Moore)
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