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- From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
- Subject: Re: Rank of Hold`em Pocket Cards
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.031305.11886@netcom.com>
- Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
- References: <1992Nov18.225446.28776@netcom.com> <17967@autodesk.COM>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:13:05 GMT
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- In article <17967@autodesk.COM> jamesr@Autodesk.COM (James Rowell) writes:
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- >mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
-
- >> This statement, along with the reference to Steve Jacobs' posting,
- >> leads me to believe that you'd rank hands solely on their chances
- >> of being the best hand. BIG mistake (IMHO). Consider JTs and 99 -
- >> both group 3 hands. One has a higher probability of winning, but
- >> the other, when it wins, has a better chance to win a larger pot.
- >> These two factors offset one another, and the EV of each hand is
- >> close enough to group them together.
-
- >Interesting point. But note that I never said anything about SOLELY
- >ranking hands in this manner. I said that given the information, then
- >I could make my own judgements about what hands to play. This may
- >in fact involve giving some hands higher importance due to the fact
- >that you may win bigger pots with them.
-
- OK -- you should already have that information available. It can be
- found in the book you referenced in your last post.
-
- >I feel, perhaps incorrectly, that your objection to my idea is more
- >emotional in that I'm actually critisizing M&S! Let's not discourage
- >genuine scientific enquiry eh?! Maybe my mistake was claiming that
- >what I proposed might be better than M&S. Perhaps I should have
- >left value judgement comments out of my posting. Live and learn.
- >(Malmuth and Sklansky may be amazing, but their just people
- >like you and me, no-ones perfect.)
-
- I didn't mean to come across as trying to stifle your viewpoint. But
- the M&S table is still the best resource for assessing starting hands.
- If you want to derive your own EV, go for it, but I doubt you'll come
- up with dramatically different results (unless your usual game is marked
- by unusual playing behavior).
-
- >Hey, Steve, why don't you bail us out of this hole we're digging
- >ourselves into! I'd like to hear your views. :-)
-
- It's tough for Steve to type; one hand is busy holding the pocket rockets...
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