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- Path: sparky!uunet!autodesk!jamesr
- From: jamesr@Autodesk.COM (James Rowell)
- Newsgroups: rec.gambling
- Subject: Re: Rank of Hold`em Pocket Cards
- Message-ID: <17967@autodesk.COM>
- Date: 19 Nov 92 18:31:36 GMT
- References: <1992Nov18.225446.28776@netcom.com>
- Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA
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- mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
-
- > This statement, along with the reference to Steve Jacobs' posting,
- > leads me to believe that you'd rank hands solely on their chances
- > of being the best hand. BIG mistake (IMHO). Consider JTs and 99 -
- > both group 3 hands. One has a higher probability of winning, but
- > the other, when it wins, has a better chance to win a larger pot.
- > These two factors offset one another, and the EV of each hand is
- > close enough to group them together.
-
- Interesting point. But note that I never said anything about SOLELY
- ranking hands in this manner. I said that given the information, then
- I could make my own judgements about what hands to play. This may
- in fact involve giving some hands higher importance due to the fact
- that you may win bigger pots with them.
-
- > And as Sklansky is so fond of saying, the object of poker is not
- > to win pots, but to win money. So, using a formal table of winning
- > probability is a flawed way to rank starting hands.
-
- I'm in agreement with your statement above, but to claim that ranking
- hands in a formal way is flawed is slightly overkill. One could take
- such a formally derived table, factor in expected winnings for the
- given hands and then derive an M&S type table. Perhaps that's what
- they did.
-
- I feel, perhaps incorrectly, that your objection to my idea is more
- emotional in that I'm actually critisizing M&S! Let's not discourage
- genuine scientific enquiry eh?! Maybe my mistake was claiming that
- what I proposed might be better than M&S. Perhaps I should have
- left value judgement comments out of my posting. Live and learn.
- (Malmuth and Sklansky may be amazing, but their just people
- like you and me, no-ones perfect.)
-
- Hey, Steve, why don't you bail us out of this hole we're digging
- ourselves into! I'd like to hear your views. :-)
-
- James.
-