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- From: jc@minya.UUCP (John Chambers)
- Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
- Subject: Re: International Folk Dancing and "The Macedonian Question"
- Summary: Here's some history/archaeology ...
- Message-ID: <1395@minya.UUCP>
- Date: 22 Nov 92 20:40:00 GMT
- References: <YOUNG.92Nov18161145@black-nag.icad.com>
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- In article <YOUNG.92Nov18161145@black-nag.icad.com>, young@icad.com (Jonathan H. Young) writes:
-
- [Hi, Jonathan!]
-
- ...
-
- > In conversation with the protesters it was unclear how we could have
- > avoided take a partisan position. They argued that "Yugoslav
- > Macedonia" was a fiction promulgated by Tito in the 1940s with
- > expansionist intent, and that the only true Macedonia was entirely
- > contained within Greece. Furthermore, they stated that there was no
- > authentic indigenous culture or ethnicity north of Greece, because it
- > had all been supplanted by slavic pseudo-culture imposed by the
- > communist regimes over the last 40 years.
-
- This is mostly propaganda, of course. The history is (as usual) much
- more complicated. The people who call themselved "Makedonski" have
- been there since roughly the 9th century. When they colonized the
- area, it was pretty much uninhabited. The area had a historical name,
- "Makenodia", which was used by a much earlier Greek-speaking
- population, but they had abandoned the area some centuries earlier.
-
- Archaeologists (and climatologists) have explained much of the story
- in recent decades, but the history doesn't seem to have had much
- effect on the area's politics, or the media's understanding of it.
-
- The basic outline is that from roughly the 4th to the 10th century,
- the northern hemisphere went through a very warm period (somewhat as
- is happening now). One of the major reasons for the collapse of the
- Roman Empire, it turns out, was that the interiors of the Italic and
- Balkan peninsulas became deserts, and no crops (other than semi-desert
- plants like olives) could be reliably grown. By the year 400, there is
- little evidence of human habitation in these peninsulas, except along
- the coasts, and in a few valleys that had wetter micro-climates, plus
- a few monasteries. Agriculture had essentially drawn to a close.
-
- This had very little impact on the Greek culture, which had been
- mostly seagoing (fishermen and merchants) for about a thousand years.
- The inland Greeks were a fringe population, who migrated elsewhere (or
- died of starvation). They did continue to refer to the central area as
- "Makedonia", but it was just a place name. There were no longer many
- Greeks (or anyone else) living to the south of the Danube (where the
- Roman population continued into modern times).
-
- Far to the north, it became possible to grow crops in Scandinavia, and
- the population slowly grew, as it did in central Asia ...
-
- Along about the 9th century, the climate started to cool. In the
- north, crops started to fail, and the people had a choice: emigrate or
- starve. Thus the Viking period. The inhabitants of central Asia were
- mostly nomadic, and took to wandering in southerly directions. To the
- southwest, this put pressure on the Slavonic-speaking population in
- what is now Ukraine. The interior of the Balkan peninsula was starting
- to become more habitable, and that was an obvious direction for
- landless people to migrate. It was in part recolonized by Greeks, but
- they were a tiny minority, and they were newcomers like the much more
- numerous Slavs (and Magyars a bit farther north).
-
- By the time the climate settled down in the 10th century, there was
- once again a significant human population in the Balkans, and they
- mostly spoke Slavonic. They also became Christianized; most of the
- oldest Slavonic religious documents were from what is now Bulgaria.
- The old Slavonic language has with time split into a lot of dialects
- that are (or are on the verge of being) separate languages. There is a
- recognizable group of closely-related dialects spoken in the central
- area (which is a bit of a basin, geologically), and of course those
- dialects are collectively called "Makedonski".
-
- The new inhabitants tended to use whatever place names were still
- known. The central part of the peninsula was traditionally called
- "Makedonia", and the newcomers adopted that name, because "That's what
- it's called." This is, of course, a rather common failure of logic in
- the human mind, but it's usually of little political consequence. Thus
- here in Massachusetts, the remnant Amerind population doesn't seem to
- object to the European immigrants using their place names.
-
- But in recent decades, the story has been different with "Makedonia".
- Various Greeks have found it politically expedient to claim the area
- as Greek. They tend to take the attitude that "Those people are
- Greeks, and they should learn to be Greeks, dammit!" But it hasn't
- been Greek for roughly 1600 years now. And the Slavic-speaking people
- there didn't take it over by force. True, there were a few battles,
- there always are; but they aren't the main story. The Slavs came to be
- there primarily as refugees moving into a land that was underpopulated
- and had room for them. The Greeks didn't take advantage of the
- improving climate, because by then they were sailors, fishermen, and
- merchants, and the slowly-cooling inland areas weren't a very
- attractive alternative to the much wealthier Islands and the Sea.
-
- An amusing aspect of this is that, even in ancient times, the Greek
- population pretty much held the inhabitants of Makedonia in contempt.
- Part of the attention paid to Alexander's success is that he was from
- Makedonia. It is clear from many historical sources that, to most
- Greeks, the idea of a fellow from such an uncivilized area becoming
- the leader of all Hellas was, well, sort of like an Arkansaw hillbilly
- becoming the American president. Who'd a-thunk it?
-
- > How can international folk dancers continue to refer to this region
- > without causing an international incident? In general, we defer to
- > our workshop leaders in choosing the appropriate adjectives to refer
- > to their dances. Do we have to resign ourselves to controversy any
- > time we learn dances from a region of the world whose name is in
- > dispute?
-
- It's probably hopeless. The only reasonable choice is "We'll call
- people by the name they call themselves, or as close as we can get to
- it in our language." This would mean that the proper name for the
- area, people and language of the central Balkans is "Makedon-" plus
- some appropriate suffix.
-
- Of course, we should also call the Greeks by some name that starts
- with "Ella-", but we have English-language traditions to fight there.
- And we should do away with the ridiculous Italian name "Montenegro";
- the proper name is "Crnagora". Similarly, Wales should be Cymri;
- Germany should be Deutschland; Finland should be Suomi; Japan should
- be Nippon; China should be any of a dozen names ....
-
- Nah; it's hopeless.
-
- (But at least we've stopped putting "the" before "Ukraine". And we now
- refer to Persia by its correct historical name, "Iran". ;-)
-
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