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- From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
- Subject: Re: learning to lead
- References: <1dov62INNf4a@morrow.stanford.edu> <1992Nov14.014440.11327@nas.nasa.gov> <1992Nov14.040921.22103@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 22:28:41 GMT
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- Fear.
-
- In article <1992Nov14.040921.22103@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
- storm@geog.utah.edu (John Storm) writes:
- >It would seem that all new leaders, in part, lack that quality; it is more
- >a learned trait than genetic. In fact, the act of learning to lead
- >itself implies some lack of fear ... a fearful person is doomed to the
- >dull end of the rope.
- >(Some people also argue that ALL climbers lack that quality, for example my
- >mother. :-) )
-
- Part of the leading process is to over come that fear. Not to lose it
- completely. Long blank lead outs are useful for this. You just switch it
- off. Very hazardous. Portions are contrary to all reason. So that's why
- climbing is contrary to reason. [My mother would argue that, too.]
-
- The people who handle nitro or fly high performance jets have
- similar qualities.
-
- >There is probably not one of us who can't remember doing something REALLY
- >stupid in their climbing carear. The trick is to live through it, learn, and
- >DON"T do it again. That's learning to lead!
-
- Sure nice list at the end of your post.
-
- >Id rather trust a new fearless leader (and watch them like a hawk), he/she's
- >young and may learn yet, than trust a experienced(?) leader who knows no fear!
-
- Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
-
- >|> Only a leader knows what it means to back off (and how).
- >
- >As far as mistakes, my personal bests have been!
- >*Losing $200.00 worth of gear on a wall I was not fearless enough to do. :-)
-
- I have left my share of bongs, chocks, slings, rings, and things.
-
- >*Sliding down a snow decent only to find that it ended in a cliff, thank God
- >the 6-pack in my rucsack broke the fall!
-
- I went a little further and got a helicopter ride.
-
- >*Getting arrested in the Valley for scarfing food. :-(
-
- You have to be more discrete.
-
- >Isn't that in the FAQ for the group??? ;-)
-
- Not yet.
- Not clear how much longer it will last. New edicts coming down from up top.
-
- --eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
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- A Ref: Mathematics and Plausible Reasoning, vol. 1, G. Polya
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