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- From: bobh@minaret.hwr.arizona.edu (Bob Harrington)
- Newsgroups: rec.climbing
- Subject: Re: Macho quiz (for Laura)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.224626.1421@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 22:46:26 GMT
- References: <13543@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
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- In article <13543@ecs.soton.ac.uk> tpm@ecs (TP Monks) writes:
- >
- >I guess that I'm exempt from Laura's recent complaint since I'm British,
- >so here goes for a dumb macho survey barely disguised as science:
- >
- >I've been climbing for almost 2 yrs now and have trained pretty hard,
- >figuring that the more pull ups and wrist curls you can do, the harder
- >you can climb. Since January however, my strength has hardly improved
- >at all, but my climbing has got way better, leading me to consider the
- >fact that maybe technique has something to do with it as well (what a
- >radical idea!).
- >
- >So, maybe pull-ups aren't everything. In order to check this *astonishing*
- >premise it would be nice to check the pull-up to grade correlation.
- >All you need to do is send me a message with all relevant info in the
- >subject field. I'll post the results, from which you will be able to
- >ascertain to no less than three decimal points exactly how your climbing
- >grade will or will not increase by learning to do that one extra
- >pull-up :->.
- >
- >Here's an American example:
- > Subject: 5.10 #32
- >And a British one:
- > Subject: E3 #7
-
- The results could be interesting, so let's try to do this right. We need
- to be more specific as to what constitutes our "climbing grade". Should
- we send you:
-
- higest grade ever red pointed # of pull-ups could do at
- the time
-
- higest grade ever on-sighted "
-
- grade that would have a 90% # number of pull-ups can do
- success rate on today today
-
- something else??
-
- >Hey, this could be interesting! Perhaps all you tanned Californian muscled
- >rock athletes in Lycra out there have a low grade/pull-up ratio from
- >climbing all those steep never-ending cracks, whereas us English have a
- >high one from climbing those stubby little stanage routes with sloping
- >rounded breaks whilst wearing bobble hats!
- >
-
- I think you are right in expecting the degree of correlation to depend on the
- type of climbing that people do. Pull-up strength almost completely controls
- how hard a route you can do in the Shawangunks, whereas it's almost irrelevant
- in slab climbing. I think the correlation between finger strength and climbing
- ability is likely to be stronger. Or better, finger strength divided by body
- weight.
-
- >Flame on, I'm waiting!
- >
- >Tim
- >
- >
- >--
- >-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- >Tim Monks Vision, Speech and Signal Processing
- >tpm@ecs.soton.ac.uk Southampton University
- >Tel: +44 (703) 592774 Fax: +44 (703) 592895
-
-
- Bob Harrington
- bobh@hwr.arizona.edu
-