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- From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
- Newsgroups: rec.autos
- Subject: Re: NOx, hydrogen, and zero emmissions
- Date: 22 Nov 1992 06:12:07 GMT
- Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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- References: <By3Jrs.BL1@rahul.net>
- Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
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- In a previous article, wilsont@rahul.net (Timothy Wilson) says:
-
- >First off, NOx is produced whenever there is combustion of any sort in
- >our atmosphere.
- >
- >You _do_not_ need to inject water into the cylinder... thats an old 1960-1970
- >kludge to stop the engine from having the explosion in the intake tubes.
- >it does nothing for emmisions, it saves the intake system if you are using
- >something as stupid as a carbuerator.
- >
- >Emmission control is through the fuel/air ratio. The ratio is so extreme,
- >( i forget which way) that there is a serious power loss.
- >
- >The japanese have a Z running on LH2, they inject it straight into the cylinder
- >no need to heat it.
- >
- >Zero Emmisions: Its just that... ZERO. a zero emmission vehicle does not
- >have a tail pipe!
- >I thought this was really stupid, but its true. (or so i was told by my
- >energy professor)
- >
- >So unless the laws change, H2 has a slim future in CA. (where zero emmisions
- >started anywayas)
- >
- >The last point, IC engines are a bad idea. Try a fuel cell. No NOx..
- >you only get water vapor.
- >
- >UTC has a fuel cell that weighs 90kg, but puts out 300kw. (400hp)
- >the draw back is that it costs 1/2 million dollars. :(
- >
- >What do you expect for platinum and gold covered nodes.
- >
- >
- >Timothy "I wrote a 15 page paper on it" Wilson.
-
- fifteen page paper or no, i do not believe what you are telling me. but that
- is ok, since you obviously are going to disagree with me. So, you can be happy
- with whatever makes you happy, and i'll do the same. H power is still not
- a very viable option in the immediate future, or at least, i do not see it.
- perhaps you do. i think H power is STUPID. there are better and easier
- and just as Efreindly solutions. but i know that i would be told that i
- am a dork and stupid, and thus will not "publish" what i think here, aside
- from what i have heard/think i know about H power not being viable..now at
- least.
- DREW
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