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- From: alan@lancaster.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
- Newsgroups: rec.autos
- Subject: Re: Experiences with Pickups
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.190245.25528@berlioz.nsc.com>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 19:02:45 GMT
- References: <1992Nov17.210851.7324@medtron.medtronic.com>
- Sender: alan@lancaster (The Hepburn)
- Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation
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- In article <1992Nov17.210851.7324@medtron.medtronic.com>, barham@medtronic.COM (Bill Barham) writes:
- |> I am planning to buy a used full-size pickup. I am thinking about going with
- |> a diesel engine. I would like to here about good and bad experiences with
- |> full-size pickups, gas and diesel.
- |>
- |>
-
- Okay: Bad experience - 1984 Chevy C30 Crew Cab 454cid gas, TH400 auto
-
- I bought this vehicle almost right off the delivery truck, it had 5 miles on
- the clock when I took delivery. It was used as a family transporter. It
- carried an 11 ft cabover camper for about a year, then we sold that and
- bought a 24 ft travel trailer. With a manufacturer's GVWR of 10,000 lb
- it was never overloaded. At 1000 miles the "control stalk" (turn signal,
- cruise control, headlight dimmer, wiper/washer control) fell off and was
- replaced under warranty. At 8k miles the gas tank selector valve froze
- and was replaced under warranty. At 15K miles the gas tank selector valve
- froze again, no warranty. The dealer wanted $85 for the valve. I opened
- up the bad valve and replaced the buna-N O-rings with Viton rings for $2
- and had no more problems with it. At 57,109 miles (that number is etched
- forever in my memory) the transmission refused to shift out of first gear.
- A new vacuum modulator did not help so I rebuilt the tranny. I replaced
- the clutch packs with heavy duty clutches; replaced all the PLASTIC (in a
- heavy duty unit?) rings and other parts with real parts, replaced the
- torque convertor with a heavy duty Allison convertor, added a Shift Kit (tm)
- and an external cooler. One week after putting the tranny back in, the
- engine spun a rod bearing (number 5 cylinder). After spending almost $2k
- building the engine to RV specs I went to GM with a complaint about the
- lack of longevity of the vehicle. Their response was: it only came with a
- 12K/12 mo warranty and there was nothing they could do. They suggested I
- contact the BBB Auto-Line program if I was dissatisfied. At the arbitration
- hearing, I was accused of abusing the truck by pulling a trailer. The
- arbitrator, trying to keep a straight face, disagreed. Since GM stated
- that the average life of an engine should be over 100k miles, and we only got
- 57% of that, the arbitrator decided that GM owed us 43% of what it cost us
- to rebuild the engine. We later traded it in on a Ford.
-
- Good experience - 1990 Ford F350 Crew Cab 7.3l diesel, E4OD auto
-
- This truck has also been used as a family transporter. We traded our 24 ft
- travel trailer in on a 34 ft fifth wheel and have used this truck to pull
- the trailer up and down the west coast several times. The truck right now has
- over 30K miles and has had the thermostat replaced under warranty, and the
- Rear ABS valve replaced under warranty. The total combined weight of the
- truck and the trailer is 16k lb and the truck has absolutely no problem
- pulling that weight. We won't win any speed contests climbing grades, but
- then we're usually not in that big a hurry anyway. And we get to pass up
- all those gas burners when they stop to refill their tanks. The Chevy never
- got better than 6 mpg whether we were driving empty or pulling a trailer.
- The Ford gets 18 mpg empty (around town) and 12 mpg pulling the trailer.
- For serious pulling a diesel is the only way to go. Sure you can find a
- gas engine with more hp, and comparable torque, but my diesel develops it's
- torque at 1400 rpm, not 2800 like the gas burners. And the difference in
- mileage, and all maintenance costs, make it a much more economical option.
-
-
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