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- From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
- Subject: Re: Dolby C
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.172226.2325@news.columbia.edu>
- Keywords: Dolby
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- Reply-To: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:22:26 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov16.220518.348@cypress.com> ssr@cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov16.140041.23154@news.columbia.edu> gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener) writes:
- >>
- >>Dolby C is dynamic, Dolby B is static. The compression effect changes
- >>throughout a Dolby C recording. As such, you *cannot* readily play it
- >>back on a machine without Dolby C, whereas you certainly can play a Dolby
- >>B tape back on a machine sans Dolby.
- >>
- >>Playing a Dolby C tape back w/o Dolby C will give, ah, less than desirable
- >>results.
- >>
- >
- >NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dolby B and C have similar ways of compensating
- >for the hiss on a tape (assuming a zero noise source). B compensates by
- >10dB and C; by 20dB. Hence if you record Dolby C, and play it back on Dolby
- >B, just use the treble control to cut 10dB (oh well - till it sounds less
- >"shrill"), and you'll be all set !!
-
- BZZT! Sorry amigo, but that won't work. Here's why.
-
- Dolby B is a fixed-gain compander (with a variable bandwidth, of course).
-
- Dolby C is actually a pair of companding circuits with variable gain.
- There's a -30 to -10 dB section for high levels followed by a -50 to
- -30 dB circuit. These levels are variable, unlike Dolby B which is
- fixed at -10 dB.
-
- Dolby called this a "staggared action, dual-level format" if I recall
- their paper. I call it dynamic noise reduction, as opposed to Dolby
- B, which I call static. Of course, Dolby B is a side-chained format
- like anything else, and the less HF content in the program material,
- the less the effect will be heard, but that's not the same thing as
- a variable gain stage.
-
- I'm not at my desk, so I can't cite a chapter and verse in Woram or
- Ballou, but you're free to check them out if you don't believe me.
-
- Either way, Dolby C material will not sound good through a Dolby B
- processor, and you will be far from "all set" if you switch on your
- Dolby B circuit and then fiddle with your tone controls. It won't
- sound anything like the original.
-
- The moral of the story is: Don't record in a noise reduction format
- that you can't play back.
-
-
- --
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