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- Path: sparky!uunet!tessi!eaglet!rick
- From: rick@eaglet.rain.com (Rick Lindsley)
- Subject: Re: Wanted: Post election comments on Prop. 9
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.074628.9079@eaglet.rain.com>
- Organization: Quagmire Annex
- References: <1992Nov15.020914.6915@scic.intel.com> <1803@rwing.UUCP> <1992Nov15.230206.1025@eaglet.rain.com> <1806@rwing.UUCP>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:46:28 GMT
- Lines: 42
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- I wrote:
-
- But isn't that the basis of all laws -- certain acts are illegal
- with person A, and not with person B? It's illegal to sell alcohol
- to someone who is 17, but not someone who is 27. Similarly it might
- be illegal (varies by state!) to have sex with a 17 year old, but
- not with a 27 year old. Would you advocate a "uniform" alcohol
- law, or age of consent? Either you can or can't sell alcohol, or
- you can or can't have sex.
-
- pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes:
-
- Laws relating to alcohol are not relating to RIGHTS. And these are
- also describing a condition (being a child) that EVERYONE passes.
- Being/not being a minority such as a black is not something one
- grows into or out of. As to rights, one does not gain full rights
- of citizenship till they become 21 (18 in some states). And this
- covers all people, not just a specified group.
-
- So, what you are saying then, is that laws which do not apply to rights
- may discriminate against some groups, and that conditions which
- everyone shares may be used to separate people into groups, right? That
- it is ok to have liquor laws because drinking liquor is not a right,
- and it is also ok for them to be based on age because age is something
- everyone grows out of (and into)?
-
- Also, it might help for you to define "rights" as you see them. Do you
- mean "Bill of Rights" or ..?
-
- I just want to make sure I understand before I offer my next
- situation.
-
- *YOU* want lines drawn setting up special classes. I want them
- removed.
-
- Big difference.
-
- If that's what you want and that's what I want, I agree. I think,
- however, that what we want is actually quite a bit closer together
- in form, and just substantially different in substance.
-
- Rick
-