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- From: pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto)
- Newsgroups: pnw.general
- Subject: Re: Wanted: Post election comments on Prop. 9
- Message-ID: <1806@rwing.UUCP>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 13:25:35 GMT
- References: <1992Nov15.020914.6915@scic.intel.com> <1803@rwing.UUCP> <1992Nov15.230206.1025@eaglet.rain.com>
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- In article <1992Nov15.230206.1025@eaglet.rain.com> rick@eaglet.rain.com (Rick Lindsley) writes:
- >pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes:
- >
- > But this wasn't the point I was addressing, and I think you know it.
- > On that point, you seem to support making certain acts illegal if done
- > to person A, but not if done to person B. I support making the given
- > acts UNIFORMLY illegal, or not illegal. Not writing laws to benefit
- > certain people exclusively. I hope you see the difference, without
- > conjuring up some sort of red herring.
- >
- >But isn't that the basis of all laws -- certain acts are illegal with
-
- *ALL* laws? And you follow with:
-
- >person A, and not with person B? It's illegal to sell alcohol to
- >someone who is 17, but not someone who is 27. Similarly it might be
- >illegal (varies by state!) to have sex with a 17 year old, but not with
- >a 27 year old. Would you advocate a "uniform" alcohol law, or age of
- >consent? Either you can or can't sell alcohol, or you can or can't have
- >sex.
-
- Laws relating to alcohol are not relating to RIGHTS. And these are also
- describing a condition (being a child) that EVERYONE passes. Being/not
- being a minority such as a black is not something one grows into or out
- of. As to rights, one does not gain full rights of citizenship till
- they become 21 (18 in some states). And this covers all people, not
- just a specified group. Poor analogy you try here. Try again.
-
- >And for a ridiculous strawman, it's illegal to take somebody's car on a
- >joy ride .. unless of course they said you could. All these
- >exceptions!! Can't we agree on a uniform application of the law? :)
-
- Above doesn't even warrent comment. But then, common sense has never
- been a strong point of statists (or socialists)...
-
- >I don't think uniform is what you really want. All laws divide people
- >into two classes, the haves and the havenots. All you want is to draw
- >the line in a different place than the people arguing with you. In
- >other words, your definition of uniform differs with theirs.
-
- Nope again. *YOU* want lines drawn setting up special classes.
- I want them removed.
-
- Big difference.
-
- Laws (those worth having) provide sanctions for behavior where one person
- infringes on the rights of another: You don't take for yourself someting
- someone else has worked to obtain. You don't force someone to serve
- you against their will, and without compensation, etc.
-
- I want it even ALL ways. Not artifically 'tuned'. But that is oh-so
- incorrect politically and also out of fashion these days, isn't it.
- Soooooo un-cool, as well. That's life ...
-
- --
- pat@rwing.uucp (Pat Myrto), Seattle, WA
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