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- Subject: Re: a.b.p.e. distribution
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.062232.13426@yarc.uucp>
- From: scott@yarc.uucp (Scott Beckstead)
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 06:22:32 GMT
- Reply-To: scott@yarc.UUCP (Scott Beckstead)
- References: <1992Nov17.155639.27923@news.columbia.edu> <1992Nov18.114903.22262@nntp.nta.no> <1992Nov18.155039.29176@news.columbia.edu>
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- In article <1992Nov18.155039.29176@news.columbia.edu> dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov18.114903.22262@nntp.nta.no> styri@nta.no writes:
- >>In article <1992Nov17.155639.27923@news.columbia.edu>,
- >>dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis) writes:
- >>>
- >>
- > [about obeying laws, I said don't sweat it.]
- >
- >>That may be your opinion, Dan. However, it's not a very good argument. The
- >>fact that people violate laws every day doesn't make them right. At present
- >>we've got a lot of freedom on the net. Abuse it, and we may lose some.
- >
- > But obeying a bad law, or obeying a good law badly applied is worse
- >that not obeying a law.
- > What is the point of having freedom if it is secured at the price of
- >never exercising it?
- >
- >>
- >>The bad thing is that you may not be among the people who loose that freedom.
- >>Users at other sites may pay for you being selfish and not very law abiding.
- >>That invalidates much of your argument.
- >
- > Well, I'm arguing to keep a.b.p.e. If it is lost then we loose some
- >freedom. Whether this comes from outside, or is selfimposed, it is still a
- >loss. Since the sex groups are wildly popular, loosing one is about as much
- >harm as you can expect to deal to the net.
- >
- >> When you're a part of a society or
- >>organization you're required to follow the common rules and laws. If you
- >>want to follow another set of rules - well, there are other societies...
- >>
- > I might suggest that the common rules and laws of the net (or at least
- >very common practice) is that a.b.p.e is OK.
- >
- >>Ignoring copyright law is to undermine the righ to own property.
- >>
- > But more serious is enforcing a zero tolerance view of copyright. Then
- >everything is owned by someone, and you may not have access to it.
- >
- >DanZ
- >
- I think that a zero tolerance view of copyright would not be that bad
- a thing. At least a LOW tolerance. We are no talking about BAD laws
- here. I don't beleive you or anyone else has the right to decide what is
- or is not a bad law, that being why we have a supreme court. Let's not
- set ourselves up as the arbiter of good and bad legislation. If you
- beleive a law is bad and can convince enough other people (preferably
- including a lawmaker or two) that it is bad there are ways to change that!
- My $0.02
- Scott
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