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- From: tbruseha@hollywood.ems.cdc.com (Tom Brusehaver)
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- Subject: Re: Northwest layoffs
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- Date: 23 Nov 92 19:10:55 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov23.105906.1069@hemlock.cray.com> rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes:
- >
- >In article <1992Nov19.092215.7207@hemlock.cray.com>, n3884@cray.com (Pete Palmer) writes:
- >>
- >> The other night on the news it was reported that Northwest has now
- >> terminated 2100 positions in 1992. Many of these positions were
- >> high paying, including upper mid-management and pilots.
- >>
- >> Does anyone know how many new jobs they have promised with the Airbus maintenance
- >> bases in the Duluth area?
- >
- >1500.
- >> I'm trying to see if there will be any net gain
- >> in jobs for the state, or are we already in the red?
- >
- The state was in the red the minute Al stepped in. He starts asking
- questions, and the state spends money to find out answers. Al watched
- the movie "Wall Street" just enough times to realize what eveyone else
- knew. Northwest had more assets than debt. Northwest weathered other
- hard times as a result, so it was still around for Al to make a
- darling deal for the stock holders.
-
- Al at this point owed major money, so he took all the aircraft and
- sold them off to a leasing company (yes, Northwest Airlines owned
- everything before Al showed up). This netted Al some healthy $$, bonus
- as it were, after all the "corporation" owes them billions. Al is
- sitting pretty, lotsa cash, and the airline might just be able to keep
- paying the debt owed. Al really doesn't care, his salary (not the
- Northwest salary, but the consulting company) will keep him quite nice
- for years to come. If he gives away Northwest (to maybe some other
- airline, maybe KLM?) they assume ALL the debt, and Al still gets some
- money perhaps a consulting contract, but doesn't really care.
-
- >At this point, the question is whether NWA survives (saving some jobs) or
- >not. It's clear that for NWA to survive, they must become "more efficient"
- >(cut jobs).
- >
- This move toward efficiency is very short sighted. In any layoff
- situation, the "inefficient" are let go, and unfortunatly some good
- folks too. Shortly after, the hard workers see this is a less than
- ideal situation (punishment for doing a good job, doing more!), and
- they move on. So now you have a company full of middle of the road
- types.
- >> Obviously they needed to make these cuts to compete with the big guys,
- >> but why was this never mentioned to MN residents when the
- >> legislature was debating the MAC bonds last year?
- >
- Al and his croanies wiggled the books around, and infused some of
- their own cash until all the financing got approved. Once approved,
- and they had a chance, they quit infusing money.
-
- The NWA that was a public company (the had stock 'fairly' traded) had
- less debt (virtually none). This low debt situation provided
- additional cash that didn't have to go toward paying interest.
- Interest is money that cuts hard into the bottom line especially at
- this scale.
-
- >Because if the public knew the truth, NWA would never get the money.
- Absolutly! Much of the public knew it. Just some folks liked the
- idea of adding $$ to the Iron Range (I do too, but not these $$).
- >
- >> Is the competitive
- >> environment changing so fast that they didn't know they would
- >> be cutting back or did the state do a bad job in assessing NWA's
- >> position in the market?
- >
- >Yes. I don't think even NWA thought they would lose money this fast (from
- >fare wars), but it was also clear that NWA was in big trouble (due to the
- >huge debt from the LBO) before the bailout package, er, "incentives" were
- >passed.
- >
- I don't think Al cared. Al figured if he got the money, and the state
- did all the work, it would be easier to get rid of the airline. If Al
- were to sell stock in the airline as it was 5 years ago, this would be
- penny stock, VERY risky, and difficult to sell. I think S&P (Standard
- and Poors) the bond rating company downgraded the Northwest airlines
- loan to one notch above junk bonds a couple weeks ago (I heard it on
- the radio i think).
-
- >I've also heard that the MN constitution is clear that public money cannot
- >be used to fund private buisnesses. Does anyone have an on-line copy of
- >the MN constitution?
- >
- Other ventures have been financed with state money (Landmark brewery
- is one). I think there is a $30million dollar bond that needs to be
- posted before the supreme court will hear the case testing its
- constitutionality (sp?).
- >> --------------------------------------------------
- >> Pete Palmer
- >--
- >Russ Anderson | Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
- >------------------ upon my employer or anyone else. (c)1992
- I am quoting, I hope I don't get in any trouble with your copyright, I
- give you full credit for your work and mine. Much of my work is
- conjecture, and is mostly uninformed. If you believe any of this,
- your stupider than I am!
-
- Tommy B
-
- Don't blame me, I call 'em as I see 'em. These are only mine.
-