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- From: jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan)
- Newsgroups: misc.writing
- Subject: Re: Intersting point?
- Message-ID: <22908@venera.isi.edu>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 18:58:13 GMT
- References: <92322.122322KVJLC@ASUACAD.BITNET>
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- In-reply-to: KVJLC@ASUACAD.BITNET's message of 17 Nov 92 19:23:22 GMT
-
- In article <92322.122322KVJLC@ASUACAD.BITNET> KVJLC@ASUACAD.BITNET (Jon L. Campbell) writes:
-
- > I re-read a posting from Fred about the characters in his novel
- >and it got me to thinking. I wondered about the depth of his antagonist
- >and had a couple of questions someone out there might want to answer.
- >
- >1.) If an antagonist is supposed to be the opposite of the protagonist,
- > then if the protagonist was a jerk wouldn't the antagonist be more
- > reasonable?
-
- The antagonist need not be the "opposite" of the protagonist, merely
- opposed. The more cleanly the two are delineated, the closer you
- approach to fairy tale or melodrama, but it can also heighten the
- drama if done well.
-
-
- > - This part I don't understand. Is it necessary to have a protagonist
- > in the story who is the reflection of good?
-
- Of course not. There are anti-heros, who are protagonists, but less
- than totally appealing (although, frankly, most anti-heroes are shown
- to be good "deep down" by the end of the story).
-
- > - Can't a protagonist be a jerk sometimes or should the character
- > be above reproach?
-
- Absolutely. No.
-
- >2.) Can an antagonist be anything other then the conflict in the story?
- >
- > - Or can the antagonist be in the process of change and therefore,
- > expected to become something different?
-
- No and yes. If the antagonist is not in the conflict, then he or she
- is not an antagonist (there is no antagonization). But the antagonist
- can definitely be part of the change and growth in a story. It's
- usually more interesting for this to be the case.
-
- >
- >I guess where I am confused is that if Fred was writing a story about
- >two people. One (protagonist) person perceives a problem and the other
- >(antagonist) is the problem. Who would the central character be in the
- >story? I can understand if a story is based around a serial killer as
- >the central character, then the developing story line would have to do
- >with some conflict within the antagonist's personna? The protagonist
- >would fall into a supporting role of (?) casual observer or ??
-
- If the central character is the serial killer, the serial killer *is*
- the protagonist.
-
- >The idea is interesting in itself, but I wonder how it would work. That
- >is, taking the three deminisional personna of a serial killer and dealing
- >with any aspect of humanity. I'm trying to imagine how a serial killer
- >could evolve into a nice person, with doubts and fears, and troubled by
- >what they do. The idea, as I've said, is interesting. If the antagonist
- >evolves into a different character, then wouldn't the protagonist also
- >change?
-
- Look at "Henry: Portraint of a Serial Killer" for a (relatively)
- sympathetic portrayal of a serial killer. (It's a movie.)
-
- jas
-
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