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- From: sasafw@dobo.unx.sas.com (Fred Welden)
- Subject: Re: Intersting point? AND Flat antagonist?
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- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:46:12 GMT
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- In article <92322.122322KVJLC@ASUACAD.BITNET>, Jon L. Campbell <KVJLC@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
- |[speculation about the roles and characters of the antagonist and
- |protagonist in my novel, REMOTE CONTROL, along with some discussion of
- |the nature of serial killers in the real world.]
-
- It is always gratifying to have someone express interest in my novel,
- and I'm sure there is also rich grounds here for a hypothetical
- discussion of how novels may be written with different kinds of
- protagonists and antagonists, but frankly it would be an utterly
- pointless exercise for anyone to attempt to discuss my novel when they
- haven't even seen the thing, much less read it.
-
- The protagonist-versus-antagonist model doesn't fit REMOTE CONTROL very
- well, anyway. Given sufficiently powerful analytical tools I have no
- doubt you could force it into that mold, but you would squeeze most of
- the juice out of it in the process.
-
- If there is sufficient interest here in discussing the actual details
- of REMOTE CONTROL I will gladly provide typeset, bound copies to the
- interested parties for the cost of duplication and mailing. (This price
- will naturally vary according to how many people want one.) Otherwise
- let's acknowledge that this discussion is completely hypothetical.
-
- That said, let me answer some of Jon's questions *about novels in
- general*.
-
- It is not necessary to have a protagonist who is the reflection of good.
- Many novels call the very idea that a person can be characterized as
- good into question. The protagonist can be a jerk sometimes, and
- certainly should not be above reproach--a protagonist who is above
- reproach sounds to me like a good formula for a completely boring story.
- Look, for example, at Arthurian legend, any classical or Shakespearian
- tragedy, or more recently Stephen R. Donaldson's Thomas Covenant books,
- for clearly reproachable protagonists.
-
- The second question, "Can the antagonist be anything other than the
- conflict in the story?" fails to make a lot of sense to me. I am
- reminded of an aquaintance who used to ask "Did you take the bus this
- morning or do you bring your lunch?" as a ploy to disorient the unwary.
- What if the story doesn't have an antagonist? Is the antagonist then
- something else, or can we admit that there simply isn't one? I am
- certain that you can have a story without an antagonist. Examples that
- leap to mind are "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty" and THE ACCIDENTAL
- TOURIST.
-
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- --Fred, or another blind 8th-century BC | sasafw@dobo.unx.sas.com
- Hellenic poet of the same name. |
-