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- From: ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman)
- Subject: Re: 4 Q's: Deadly Self-Defense Against Rape
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.012707.25134@socrates.umd.edu>
- Organization: University of Maryland University College
- References: <1992Nov13.200443.14525@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> <13224@optilink.UUCP> <1992Nov18.194549.7488@socrates.umd.edu> <1992Nov18.214541.14783@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:27:07 GMT
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- whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h) writes:
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- >In article <1992Nov18.194549.7488@socrates.umd.edu> ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman) writes:
- >>The United Methodist Church, which founded the National Coalition to
- >>Ban Handguns (NCBH), declares that people should submit to rape and
- >>robbery rather than endanger the criminal's life by shooting him. The
- >>Presbyterian Church, another NCBH affiliate, supports a complete ban
- >>on handguns because it opposes "the killing of anyone, anywhere, for
- >>any reason", including defense of others against a life-threatening
- >>attack.
- >>
- >>I don't think either church is known for having liberal views...
- >>Interestingly, to me it seems that the Presbyterian Church would want
- >>to disarm *everyone*, including the police and the military. I'm sure
- >>that criminals and hostile countries wholeheartedly support that idea.
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- >I've been a member of our local Presbyterian church for 2 years now and
- >I've never heard either of these positions mentioned, discussed, etc.
- >I'm not saying that the upper echelon leadership might not hold these
- >views, but I think the statements above are rather wide in scope, to
- >say the least. Guess I'll have to ask my minister what he might know
- >about this. The one thing I'd find very disturbing would be for the
- >church to hold to such an extreme position as "opposes the killing of
- >anyone, anywhere, for any reason, including defense of others against
- >life threatening attack."
-
- I agree that it is a rather extreme position, and I would hope that it
- is *far* from how people in general feel about self-defense.
- FYI, the quote above is by Rev. Young, Director of Criminal Justice
- Program for Presbyterian Church, testifying in 1985-1986 hearings on
- Legislation to Modify the 1968 Gun Control Act, House Judiciary Committee,
- Subcommittee on Crime, vol. I, p. 128.
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