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- From: davem@reagan.cs.umr.edu (Dave Mentis)
- Subject: Re: raising children
- References: <1992Nov17.231317.809@sequent.com> <1784@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM>
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:54:26 GMT
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- In article <1784@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> pleeper@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Paulette Leeper) writes:
- >
- >In article <1992Nov19.134059.16342@umr.edu> davem@reagan.cs.umr.edu (Dave
- >Mentis) writes:
- >>In article <1992Nov19.000618.19319@radian.uucp> markbr%radian@natinst.com
- >(markbr) writes:
- >>>
- >>>I want there to be a *requirement* for a marriage license that you have
- >>>taken an approved course (like the defensive driving courses) on parenting,
- >>>and one on relationships.
- >>>
- >>I suspect these tests will soon be brought to a neighborhood
- >>near you by the same fine people who gave us voter qualification
- >>tests in the past (that a US Supreme Court Justice couldn't pass
- >>if (s)he weren't of the right race).
- >
- >WHOAA! Slow down here a minute. No one said anything about mandatory
- >TESTING.
-
-
- True. For the moment...
-
- >The original poster (see above) is an advocate of mandatoy
- >COURSES.
-
- ok. Actually there are 3 things that I can readily see that can be mandatory:
-
- 1) Course availability is mandatory.
- 2) Course attendance is mandatory.
- 3) "Successful" course completion is mandatory.
-
- 'markbr' suggested 2).
-
- Which implies 1). Or does it ??
- Who gives these courses -- the government I assume ? And what if
- after spending millions of dollars to set these up there just isn't
- enough money to offer a course near you ? You just drive 50 miles
- to the nearest center ? And what if you're too ill ? Too busy ?
- Too poor ? Too ... Too bad!
-
- Now what's going to be in these courses and who decides content ?
-
- "You should {always/never} spank your child ..."
- "You should only leave your child with "qualified" daycare if
- you intend to work"
- "Qualified means ... ?? only a parent ? only female ? only
- licensed daycare ? only {fill in something you don't believe in
- and/or can't afford}"
-
- (I think you get my point here. I've thrown out only 2 of 1000's
- of topics that come up on m.k, and those 2 topics alone, in just
- a few weeks each time they come up here, have generated more flames
- than lots of newsgroups do that we've all read for years (if not decades)).
-
- So, ok. We're big boys and girls. I can just tell the instructor
- to take a long walk on a short pier. I showed up and I'll do
- my time and sit in the back quietly reading a novel, right ?
-
- I doubt it. The government isn't about to spend millions of $$
- just to have me thumb my nose at them.
-
- Next thing you know the requirement will be that I show up for the
- hour(s) AND "pay attention".
-
- Funny thing. With the attitude problem I've got, I never seem to
- be able to "pay attention" well enough to please an instructor.
-
- But of course we could resolve this dilemma if only we had an
- OBJECTIVE measure of my "paying attention".
-
- Hey. I know. We'll give a short quiz at the end and see if I can
- regurgitate (uh, recall) just the basics of what was covered.
-
- And then that'll be the end of it -- no changes to the quiz.
- No improved methods of seeing that I get my tax dollars" worth...
-
- For those that believe those last lines, please send email to
- swamp_land_for_sale@shaft.o.matic.com
-
- "We guarantee you'll get everything you deserve. (tm)" :-)
-
-
-
-
- >The more information available to people contemplating
- ^^^^^^^^^
- >marriage and/or parenthood, the better, in my opinion.
- >
-
-
- Agreed!
-
- -- davem@cs.umr.edu
- --
- There is no magic catapult to propel them back; they must
- boost themselves over the wall of terror.
-
- -- La Vergne Rosow; Phi Delta Kappan, 10/92, Vol 74, #2
-