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- From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
- Newsgroups: misc.invest,misc.taxes
- Subject: Re: Taxes and stocks (mostly)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.133517.5704@desire.wright.edu>
- Date: 19 Nov 92 13:35:17 EST
- References: <1992Nov15.221525.5619@desire.wright.edu> <BxxLxM.IAF@cs.uiuc.edu>
- Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.
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- In article <BxxLxM.IAF@cs.uiuc.edu>, watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe) writes:
- > demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
- >
- >> Sorry, but there are no losses. Someone does not knock on your door
- >>and ask for money. Paper "losses" are only real if you actually sell at that
- >>point. Most successful traders don't base their trades on paper.
- >> I held my Sears stock. It's double since then (17-35), so where are my
- >>"losses"? (And I still haven't sold.)
- >
- >>> Remember, all you have to do is sell and buy within five minutes. Then
- >
- >> Do you buy stocks? Have you ever gotten confirmation within five
- >>minutes? If you don't wait for confirmation you could be in for a rude
- >>awakening the next day.
- >
- > This is a case where options, puts, calls, warrants etc. can be
- > useful for ensuring that you hold onto your profits while taking
- > advantage of tax benefits.
- >
- > For example, suppose you have made a certain profit in a stock,
- > but don't want to sell it for another 2 months so that the gain
- > will be taxed as a long-term capital gain. However, you are
- > afraid that the stock might go down. You can create a "perfect
- > hedge" against your portfolio, so that whether the stock rises
- > or falls in price, you neither gain nor lose money.
-
- I'd go with options also, but there are those who argue for
- short-selling to hedge the portfolio. Warrants? What's the strategy
- behind that? (That's one I haven't heard used :)
-
- Brett
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- 80s: 18 million new jobs, deficits down (%GNP), tax rates down, tax revenues up
- GNP up, inflation down, unemployment down, interest rates down, cold war won
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