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- From: Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks)
- Subject: Re: Racist/Sexist Role Models
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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:28:48 GMT
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- >>Many colleges provide special preferred academic treatment for Blaks.
- >>These include lower admission standards (in effect, adding points to
- >>SAT
- >>scores, etc.), tutoring, mentoring, organization memberships, which
- >>are
-
- >I don't agree with lowering admission standards but the fact remains that inner
- >city schools where most AfAm attend are not adequate for college prep and the
- >schools in suburbia are. How do you solve the problem of a bright AfAm
- >student
- >that has a lot of potential not being able to get into college because
- >his high
- >school was crap?
-
- How does such a problem differ from that of a bright other than Blak student
- that has a lot of potential not being able to get into college because her
- or his high school was crap?
-
- >Also what is preferential about tutoring.
-
- If access to said tutoring is based on race, it is, by definition, racist.
-
- >At SFSU and SJSU I was a tutor for
- >my time to the AfAm organizations and not the white? I don't think so.
-
- The fact that you are a racist is independent of whether you think you are
- or not.
-
- >Since when have white engineering or any other students had a problem getting
- >a white tutor? One reason for having AfAm tutors is the problems we experience
- >are a lot different from white students. If a white student asked for help i
- >wouldn't refuse but I didn't look in the halls for white students to tutor like
- >I did AfAm either.
- >
- >As far as mentors go. When was the last time a white student had a problem
- >finding a white professional with the same type of career goals as he/she?
- >Now ask how many AfAm engineers most high schools students see.
-
- The first flaw in your thinking is that if what you claim were true, the Caucasian
- students need no assistance, that why are such programs overtly denied
- them? The second flaw is that you are engaging in blatent racial
- sterotyping. Your notion of a absolute racial division with no Caucasians
- in need of tutoring and mentoring and all Blaks in need of tutoring
- and mentoring is racist and untrue. Although your apparently feable
- mind may have trouble comprehending this, there are many Blaks who
- are academically prepared and well-exposed to role models. They don't
- need special preferred help, they don't deserve it, and their presence
- denies access to the truly needy who had the misfortune of being
- born with what is deemed an unworthy race. And the third flaw is
- your racist notion that a Blak student must only have Blak role models.
-
-
-
- >>denied Caucasian students. Perhaps you didn't realize such advantages
- >>made available to you were race restricted.
- >
- >White student have never had problems as a whole with all the things you list.
- >AfAm students have had serious problems in those areas.
- >whites have had the biggest quota system in ameriKKKa. When you deny AfAm and
- >other people of color admission to an institution you are gcreating a 100%
- >white quota.
-
- Could you name this mythical institution?
-
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