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- From: fritz@fc.sde.hp.com (Gary Fritz)
- Subject: Re: DAK BREADMAKERS. YOU
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:14:18 GMT
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- Mike Berger (berger@atropa) wrote:
- : DAK is simply an outlet for reconditioned merchandise. The stuff
- : they sell isn't necessarily especially prone to break, and there
- : isn't an "endless supply" of everything.
-
- Not so. DAK's primary business is selling NEW merchandise. As far as
- I know, their "reconditioned" business is purely a sideline.
-
- From my observations of several years of DAK-comments on the net,
- including following the entire history of the bread-machine mailing list:
-
- - I don't recall EVER seeing a complaint for Hitachi, Panasonic,
- Zojirushi, et al breadmakers. I DO recall seeing comments and
- recommendations from *many* happy owners of these machines.
-
- - Many owners of DAK/Welbilt breadmakers are happy with their machines.
-
- - MANY owners of DAK/Welbilt breadmakers are NOT happy with their
- machines, myself included. I have heard many dozens of complaints,
- ranging from "it started making gooey-centered bread" to "it locked up
- while baking, filled my house with smoke, and melted the plastic casing
- before I got home and pulled the plug on it." I haven't used our
- machine for several months because I got tired of wasting time and
- money on inedible bread.
-
- - The people who had problems with DAK/Welbilt machines have had virtually
- NO satisfaction from the DAK and Welbilt "customer service" organizations,
- ranging from "couldn't call the number, I tried for weeks and it was
- always busy" to "They sent me back the same machine with no apparent
- fixes or improvement."
-
- - Many, many people have sent their machines in for repairs and had it
- replaced, or were so unsatisfied with their machines that they just
- returned them. My conjecture is that these unsatisfactory machines
- are "buffed up" and sold as "reconditioned" models. (If they didn't
- fix the damn things when they were repeatedly sent in for repair while
- under warrantee, why would they fix them before reselling them?)
-
- My conclusion from the above, AND the frequent complaints on the net
- about DAK's service, products, hype, etc., is that I would definitely
- recommend that someone spend the $30 to $100 more to get a *good*
- breadmaker. Get one that you can enjoy, and avoid the ruined loaves,
- frustration, returns for repair, etc. It's WORTH the extra money.
-
- Gary
-