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- From: jlb@hounix.org (Joel Breazeale)
- Newsgroups: houston.general
- Subject: Re: News Feed
- Message-ID: <1992Nov15.201040.6571@hounix.org>
- Date: 15 Nov 92 20:10:40 GMT
- References: <1992Nov07.161442.16666@limbic.ssdl.com> <X10LPQL@taronga.com> <1992Nov11.170002.18453@sun44.synercom.hounix.org>
- Distribution: houston
- Organization: Houston UNIX Users Group (HOUNIX), Houston, TX
- Lines: 40
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- In article <1992Nov11.170002.18453@sun44.synercom.hounix.org> medley@sun44.synercom.hounix.org (Bert Medley) writes:
- >In article <X10LPQL@taronga.com> peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
- >>In article <1992Nov07.161442.16666@limbic.ssdl.com> gil@limbic.ssdl.com (Gil Kloepfer Jr.) writes:
- >
- >But the main problem as Gil has stated (this is a 2nd post) is that to carry a
- >full feed requires more than 19 hours of modem time - 5+ to get the full feed,
- >5+ to pass it on, and ~4 to provide 3-4 20% feeds to leaf sites. This leaves
- >the 4+ hours that are left to try to connect and carry e-mail. All in all,
- >probably more than 24 hrs.
- >
- >The problem is the volume of news. Many of the groups carry extraneous posts
- >and recurring topics rather than taking the discussion offline. The "me too"
- >posts and their ilk cause a large noise to signal ratio that should be actively
- >discouraged. The recurring topics should be handled in a FAQ and the querant
- >referred to same BY EMAIL. Couple this with the abuses seen in alt and you
- >get 25MB to 40MB of news per day. A proactive effort would have to be enacted
- >by USENET users to teach the newcomers what the net is about and how to use it.
- >But even then ...
- >
- Actually... The volume is the problem only if you are using UUCP. If you are
- using NNTP the volume problem is solved. NNTP doesn't transmit the entire
- article -- it offers the Message-ID and if the recipient hasn't seen it then
- it'll say 'send it' else it will refuse it.
-
- I brought a site up under NNTP and found it easy to handle.
-
- Now... Is it possible to build a SLIP network amongst the USENET sites in
- Houston and use NNTP? I've not used dialup SLIP, but I know nuchat is looking
- into it.
-
- >We could stop carrying alt, and perhaps misc, but that simply prolongs the
- >problem.
- >
- See above. With the real messages being passed around only once the problem
- will be postponed. Compression would have to come in somewhere.
-
- Reactions?
-
- --Joel Breazeale
- jlb@hounix.org
-