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- From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata - FSO)
- Subject: Re: Protest
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.042759.7655@hfsi.uucp>
- Organization: HFS, Inc., McLean VA
- References: <Bxqxpx.6D@access.digex.com> <1992Nov17.042407.27816@hfsi.uucp> <BxwBMH.5J6@access.digex.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:27:59 GMT
- Lines: 66
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- In article <BxwBMH.5J6@access.digex.com> dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov17.042407.27816@hfsi.uucp> ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata - FSO) writes:
- >>In article <Bxqxpx.6D@access.digex.com> dougnews@access.digex.com
- >>(Doug Humphrey) writes:
- >>>
- >>>The safety of the population is *directly* tied to the issue of dollars.
- >>>
- >>>>I guess we as a society are going to have to decide whether we
- >>>>value all human life, or just certain ones. If the answer is all
- >>>>human life, then the economic argument becomes irrelevant.
- >>>
- >>>This is simply not true, and can not be demonstrated. You can not
- >>>
- >>>Doug
- >>>
- >>
- >>Well, I guess in your mind you've made the decision that human
- >>life boils down to a matter of economics.
- >
- >Really? I don't think that I said that. Perhaps that is how
- >you understood it though. I do mean that it is not possible,
- >in the administration of public policy and the operations of
- >the government in its quest to serve the people, to divorce
- >any subject completely from the concept of how you are going
- >to pay for it. Is that any clearer?
-
- I think that there are two issues here that are being confused.
- The first is placing a monetary value on life so that one may make
- a decision on whether to *actively* kill that person. That is, if
- a certain monetary value is not met, then the person is executed
- or killed. The other is placing a monetary value on expenditures
- necessary to *prevent* a human death. This is placing a monetary
- value in the passive sense. I maintain that the two situations
- are different and should not be mixed. Although we quite
- frquently do the latter, I don't believe that we have ever had a
- policy of doing the former. Perhaps you have an example of the
- former being done?
-
- >>Perhaps in addition, each crime a person
- >>commits should have a positive or negative value to it? If the
- >>person's net value of a person's life doesn't equal the cost of
- >>keeping them in prison for an average life expectance, then we
- >>kill them? Is this what you are advocating?
- >
- >No. I don't think that I said any such thing.
- >
- >>If so, what about a
- >>poor person who is on welfare for a good portion of their life.
- >>Perhaps, they will never substantially contribute to society
- >>anything, and indeed will take from it more than they contribute.
- >>Should we stop all their benefits so that they will die? After
- >>all, we could spend that money in more productive ways.
- >
- >Doesn't sound like a very reasonable to me, but it is your
- >idea, not mine.
-
- But it could be the end result of people's lives are reduced to merely
- money.
-
- >Doug Humphrey Express Access Public Access Internet Voice (301) 220-2020
-
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