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- From: padgett@tccslr.dnet.mmc.com (A. Padgett Peterson)
- Newsgroups: comp.virus
- Subject: Philosophy
- Message-ID: <0019.9211161950.AA15221@barnabas.cert.org>
- Date: 13 Nov 92 19:05:58 GMT
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- From: fc@turing.duq.edu (Fred Cohen)
-
- >IT has now run for 3 years without any known virus bypassing the
- >defenses.
-
- >Many get part of the way through, and some get to the
- >point where the syst is allmost unuseable, but none have gone
- >undetected, and none have been unrecoverable!
-
- Congratulations & it *can* be done with integrity managagement. IMHO
- viruses are a done deal, the real concerns need to migrate to LANs and
- directed attacks.
-
- >For the above reasons, I daily deal with the problem of providing
- >information on how to build better defenses vs. protecting my income
- >by keeping our techniquers secret. Unlike those at a University or a
- >big company, it directly impacts my income (in a negative way) every
- >time I publish a paper on virus defenses. In my opinion, everyone
- >should submit their techniques to a refereed journal.
-
- Personally, that has never been a concern since what I give away is
- rarely what I am working on today and by giving thing away this means
- that others put their good people on figuring it out. This puts them
- further behind. Next, the calls for help tell me where they are and I
- have spent my life working myself out of a job anyway (gets boring
- doing the same thing).
-
- Do admit to holding some things back since am reluctant to provide a
- tutorial for the adversary. Major problem nowadays is compatability
- with new software such as QEMM "stealth" and "32BitDiskAccess".
-
- To "impact my income (in a negative way)" implies a positive income to
- impact. I have a reasonable eight-year-old-car-for-commuting type
- income but my job has nothing to do with PCs (as I am repeatedly
- told). But then my whole aim in life is to never think about money.
- What I have found is that the *best* toys you either get for free or
- you do not get them at all.
-
- Serious Note (well sorta)
-
- What we really need is a properly funded National Computer Security
- Laboratory - not for profit so donations can be written off, coupla
- million seed for toys, moving, and a proper site, Fred as chief
- scientist, me as chief cable splicer and translator for Fred. Lee
- Iacocca or Ross Perot as fund raiser, Al Gore can be "worthy
- figurehead" as long as he is willing to learn.
-
- I've said this before and support anything that even looks like it
- *might* be a starting point but think it was a disgrace when NIST
- abandoned the PC two years ago (I understand the funding problem and
- the government is "officially" POSIX - not the first time the sun has
- been told to rise in the West), and it was a disgrace that the
- Michelangelo hysteria got so far out of hand (and would have been lots
- worse if Mich had been written by a professional).
-
- Unfortunately, it is probably going to take a real disaster for
- anything to happen (Homer Simpson may push the wrong button yet) and
- then watch out for the backlash.
-
- Several of us breathed a sigh of relief when election day passed
- without any real incidents - worst I've heard about was the box in
- California that sent a "No" for every "Yes" vote and vicea-versa -
- wonder how those voters felt when told that "it really did not matter
- anyway".
-
- But then I was relieved that no suitcases went off on Jan 15, 1991 -
- good thing the Soviet Union did not break up a couple of years
- earlier.
-
- >p.s. I wish I could edit out the spelling errors before sending these
- >mail messages - do you get all the ^h's on your screen too?
-
- Well, WordStar does a nice job (when I remember to use it) - you must
- be using a UNIX box - even the VAX allows editing of MAIL - or maybe a
- CRAY ?
-
- [Moderator's note: _This_ UNIX box allows me to edit messages...]
-
- Warmly now but Chicago manana,
-
- Padgett
-
- ps. Today Martin-Marietta announced that it has no plans to move out of
- Orlando.
-