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- From: bandy@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Mike Bandy)
- Subject: Re: The Problem with UNIX
- Message-ID: <BxvFDo.5G7@netnews.jhuapl.edu>
- Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
- References: <1992Nov9.172715.16367@cs.wisc.edu> <1992Nov10.170423.10311@nttor.uucp>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:32:11 GMT
- Lines: 51
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- mike@nttor.uucp (Mike Hollander) writes:
-
- >In article <1992Nov9.172715.16367@cs.wisc.edu> so@brownie.cs.wisc.edu (Bryan S. So) writes:
- >>
- >>I am doing research on UNIX command line interface problems.
- >>I am sure everyone has his/her favorite UNIX troubles, would
- >>you post or email me what's your favorites? What should have
- >>been done by UNIX to resolve that problem in general?
- >>
-
- >Things that bother me about the command line (I'm using Motorola
- >UNIX System V/68 Release 3.71 running a Korn shell using vi-type
- >command line editing on a VT420), in no particular order:
-
- >1) It is possible to backspace over the prompt.
- >2) Running over past the end of the line onto the next line does not
- > allow you to backspace back to the previous line, and if you
- > backspace at the last column of a line it is possible to miss
- > a character and therefore not backspace over what you think
- > you are backspacing over.
- >3) It doesn't seem possible to map the arrow keys on the keyboard
- > to enable you to press up arrow to get the previous command, or
- > to use left arrow to move backwards through the line.
- >4) It doesn't seem possible to store macros that could be run with
- > a single keypress.
- >5) The function keys don't do anything and cannot be made to do
- > anything on the command line.
- >6) The insert and remove keys cannot be made to place you in insert
- > mode or remove characters.
-
- >That's a short list off the top off my head. If anyone has methods
- >to fix these complaints please feel free to respond!
-
- Run VMS! The VMS command line interpretor does all these things flawlessly.
- Being an AC/DC kind of guy (WRT operating systems, that is) I can say that
- the one thing I really miss when I use Unix is the command editing using the
- arrow keys. The Ultrix system I used at grad school allowed the command
- to be recalled with the up/down keys, cursor positioned at the point
- that needed changing via left/right arrows, etc. Admitedly, I'm not a real
- power user, but I have never been able to remember how to recall/edit past the
- previous using the "^" sequence. And the fact that it does the edit, then
- executes it, rather than waiting for a carriage return has always disturbed me.
-
- I know I'm setting myself up to be flamed; bring it on.
-
- >Mike Hollander | mike@nttor.UUCP
- --
-
- Mike Bandy
- bandy@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
- Johns Hopkins University / Applied Physics Lab
-